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  • bit_user
    Good. Now start building data centers around dormant supervolcanos, so we can defuse these lurking monsters by sapping away their heat.
    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20170817-nasas-ambitious-plan-to-save-earth-from-a-supervolcano
    The eruption of a large supervolcano would have climatic effects on par with an asteroid impact, possibly ushering in a mini ice age. Food production would be severely affected, triggering years of mass starvation. They're an existential threat to modern civilization.
    https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-a-supervolcano-what-a-supereruption
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supervolcano
    amirite, @Kamen Rider Blade ?
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  • USAFRet
    bit_user said:
    Good. Now start building data centers around dormant supervolcanos, so we can defuse these lurking monsters by sapping away their heat.
    Mosquito on an elephant.
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  • bit_user
    USAFRet said:
    Mosquito on an elephant.
    I've read you can drain enough heat, over like 100 years, to probably defuse one. Not with a single tap, but probably a dozen or so.

    The key is that you don't need to drain all of its heat, but just enough that it stops weakening the crust.

    It's a win-win: nearly free, limitless power and meaningful reduction of a civilization-level risk.
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  • USAFRet
    bit_user said:
    I've read you can drain enough heat, over like 100 years, to probably defuse one. Not with a single tap, but probably a dozen or so.

    The key is that you don't need to drain all of its heat, but just enough that it stops weakening the crust.

    It's a win-win: nearly free, limitless power and meaningful reduction of a civilization-level risk.
    I didn't see anything in there about "100 years".
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  • bit_user
    USAFRet said:
    I didn't see anything in there about "100 years".
    Yeah, it was a different article. I'll post if I can find it.
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  • Kamen Rider Blade
    bit_user said:
    Good. Now start building data centers around dormant supervolcanos, so we can defuse these lurking monsters by sapping away their heat.
    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20170817-nasas-ambitious-plan-to-save-earth-from-a-supervolcano
    The eruption of a large supervolcano would have climatic effects on par with an asteroid impact, possibly ushering in a mini ice age. Food production would be severely affected, triggering years of mass starvation. They're an existential threat to modern civilization.
    https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-a-supervolcano-what-a-supereruptionhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supervolcano
    amirite, @Kamen Rider Blade ?
    The threat is true, but good luck getting Data Centers to willingly move there.

    How do you know how many GeoThermal plants are necessary to drain the heat at a region to maintain stability of the crust over time? How do you even validate such claims?

    And who's going to pay for this?
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  • USAFRet
    bit_user said:
    Now start building data centers around dormant supervolcanos, so we can defuse these lurking monsters by sapping away their heat.
    Also, where is that "heat" going?

    Consider the Earth as a closed ecosystem. Planet and atmosphere.

    Sapping the heat from a volcano goes....where?
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  • bit_user
    USAFRet said:
    Also, where is that "heat" going?
    The only place it can - up. At least, if there are no large bodies of water nearby...
    https://www.tomshardware.com/desktops/servers/china-has-started-building-an-underwater-data-center-performance-is-equivalent-to-6-million-pcs-and-aims-to-save-nearly-ten-soccer-fields-of-land-and-122-million-kwh-of-electricity
    USAFRet said:
    Consider the Earth as a closed ecosystem. Planet and atmosphere.
    Energy-wise, it's not. Energy enters from the sun, which is why the temperature usually rises during the daytime. Energy is then radiated out into space (at least, the portion which isn't trapped by the greenhouse effect), enabling temperatures to drop at night.

    USAFRet said:
    Sapping the heat from a volcano goes....where?
    If the volcano erupted, that heat would come out with the magma. I don't really see the problem.
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  • bit_user
    Kamen Rider Blade said:
    How do you know how many GeoThermal plants are necessary to drain the heat at a region to maintain stability of the crust over time? How do you even validate such claims?
    Well, you can estimate the size of the magma plumes using seismographic techniques and via changes in gravity.

    I assume we have a pretty good idea how hot the magma is and at what temperature the crust weakens. That should establish a target for the amount of energy that needs to be extracted.

    Kamen Rider Blade said:
    And who's going to pay for this?
    As the BBC article I linked says, it'll pay for itself in cheap energy-generation, over time. It requires some up-front investment, but so did Google's geothermal power system described in the Toms article.
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  • USAFRet
    bit_user said:
    The only place it can - up. At least, if there are no large bodies of water nearby...
    https://www.tomshardware.com/desktops/servers/china-has-started-building-an-underwater-data-center-performance-is-equivalent-to-6-million-pcs-and-aims-to-save-nearly-ten-soccer-fields-of-land-and-122-million-kwh-of-electricity

    Energy-wise, it's not. Energy enters from the sun, which is why the temperature usually rises during the daytime. Energy is then radiated out into space (at least, the portion which isn't trapped by the greenhouse effect), enabling temperatures to drop at night.


    If the volcano erupted, that heat would come out with the magma. I don't really see the problem.
    To significantly impact the heat in this volcano, we'd be pumping significant extra heat into the atmosphere.

    Unintended consequences rear their ugly heads.


    It is going to blow? Absolutely. Eventually.
    With really really bad consequences for us out here.

    But us puny humans manually siphoning that off over the next "100 years" may or may not be a good idea. It is not a slam dunk good.
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