Nvidia's CEO says China is not far behind the U.S. in AI capabilities

Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang
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China is not significantly behind the U.S. when developing AI hardware and software, said Jensen Huang, chief executive of Nvidia, at the Hill and Valley Forum. While Chinese companies have made remarkable progress with AI services and software, Huang's comments mainly refer to Chinese AI hardware. Coincidentally, Huawei has started to ship its latest AI system, which is largely deemed competitive with Nvidia's GB200 NVL72, reports Financial Times. However, there is a catch.

"China is not behind anybody, China is right behind us, we are very, very close," said Huang at the sidelines of the Hill and Valley Forum, where business leaders and lawmakers met to discuss technology and national security, according to Bloomberg Podcasts.

Nonetheless, 10 systems may be the start. Huawei reportedly has about a million HiSilicon Ascend 910C, enough for 2,600 CloudMatrix 384 systems. Then again, 2,600 CM384 clusters can deliver about 780 ExaFLOPS of dense BF16 compute. One needs around 4,300 of Nvidia's GB200 NVL72 machines (or around 312,000 B200 AI GPUs) to get similar performance. Analyst Ming-Chi Kuo estimated that shipments of GB200 NVL72 racks alone in 2025 could reach roughly 25,000 – 35,000 racks, but in addition, the company will also ship GB300 NVL72 racks as well as B100, B200, and B300 AI GPUs.

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Anton Shilov
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Anton Shilov is a contributing writer at Tom’s Hardware. Over the past couple of decades, he has covered everything from CPUs and GPUs to supercomputers and from modern process technologies and latest fab tools to high-tech industry trends.

  • beyondlogic
    Admin said:
    Jensen Huang states that China is nearly on par with the U.S. in AI hardware development, as Huawei begins shipping its CloudMatrix 384 systems. However, Huawei's scale remains far behind Nvidia's projected AI compute deployments for 2025.

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    Considering most stuff is made in china this shouldn't be a suprise that they could reverse engineer something close.
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  • gg83
    Jensen says this while begging to sell more gpu's. So he is saying, they are close so lats sell them the most expensive gpu we have. It doesn't matter. He's a great CEO who only cares about profits. That's not always good for the average person.
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  • Heiro78
    gg83 said:
    Jensen says this while begging to sell more gpu's. So he is saying, they are close so late sell them the most expensive gpu we have. It doesn't matter. He's a great CEO who only cares about profits. That's not always good for the average person.
    Or society at large
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  • A Stoner
    The rest of the world AI is not intelligent in the least.
    China AI is not intelligent in the least.

    Yup, we are all pretty close to the same situation.
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  • King_V
    gg83 said:
    Jensen says this while begging to sell more gpu's. So he is saying, they are close so late sell them the most expensive gpu we have. It doesn't matter. He's a great CEO who only cares about profits. That's not always good for the average person.
    I did find it, ah, shall we say, a bit of suspicious timing that Jensen is saying this while also fighting against restrictions on sales to China, and while also claiming that the tales of smuggling through fake baby bumps and lobsters are just "fairy tales" even though customs in China have documented these cases.

    It sounds very "Oh, don't worry, they're close to us anyway, very little disparity in capabilities, so, just let us sell everything we want to them free of restrictions."
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  • gg83
    King_V said:
    I did find it, ah, shall we say, a bit of suspicious timing that Jensen is saying this while also fighting against restrictions on sales to China, and while also claiming that the tales of smuggling through fake baby bumps and lobsters are just "fairy tales" even though customsin China have documented these cases.

    It sounds very "Oh, don't worry, they're close to us anyway, very little disparity in capabilities, so, just let us sell everything we want to them free of restrictions."
    You nailed it. The lobsters was a hilarious story.
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  • Pierce2623
    Huawei has sold 10 of its new racks? Nvidia sells 10 DGX racks an hour….inside China probably.
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  • wicked-warlock
    No doubt in my mind he wants to sell them the tech. It is profit before national security. Sad, no one has investigated him yet. If he really cared, nothing would go to China, period.
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