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Six Different Diablo III Characters Have Same Exact Item

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Has the Diablo III character profiles finally given up some real evidence of duping?

Last week, Blizzard unveiled its Diablo III Battle.net character profiles. Whether you want to showcase your character or not, this system allows anybody with your unique BattleTag to look up and inspect your characters. Thanks to the new system and a few zealous Diablo III players, we may finally have hard evidence to prove that some sort of duping is going on inside of the game.

Last month, several screenshots appeared online allegedly showing a number of duped bows on the in-game auction house. Shortly after, a group named "Team Vietnahm" claimed responsibility for it, but little details surrounding the possible dupe were available. Now, it looks like there may be more proof of duped items thanks to the recently released character profiles.

Battle.net forum user mcstew posted:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/liemjunhao-6339/hero/18254046
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/leej88-1875/hero/14708745
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/insanity-1884/hero/11671090
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/mosesyr-1925/hero/8430
https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Faetal-1219/hero/22731568
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/passermeaw-6696/hero/4952195

Check out their Offhand "Arcanum mind". Probably one of the best sources in the game. Worth 500mill++

One of the possibilities discussed by players is that the item passed along from player to player, but the character profiles haven't been updated yet. Nobody is too certain of how the character profile updating works, but a little over two days have passed since the thread was created and all profiles are still showing the item. The only exception is the user "Faetal" who seems to have removed all gear from his character.

Others claimed it was possible these items dropped with the same stats, but another forum poster Vadoff decided to put the math together, revealing the probability for just one exact duplicate would be something along the lines of 1 in 4,784,474,572,579,344,957,650,000,000,000. The actual numbers may be different but it's probably safe to say the chance of this exact item dropping separate six times is unlikely.

 

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    alextheblue , August 19, 2012 1:11 AM
    Well... it wouldn't be a true Diablo sequel without a little duping.
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    wolley74 , August 19, 2012 1:11 AM
    Always online DRM would stop this they said, Always online would be FIIINE they said,

    **** THAT AND LET ME PLAY IT WHEN AND WHERE I WANT, NOT JUST WHEN MY NET CAN SUPPORT IT
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    aznguy0028 , August 19, 2012 1:16 AM
    Blizzard's support is TERRIBLE. I personally know one of these players in question and have been gaming with him for ages. When he bought his source off the auction house, I was there with him on vent. He bought it for 400 mil and even has the screenshot to prove it. Blizzard still banned his account for allegedly hacking and duping. When he showed them the screenshot to tell them his side of the story, nothing changed. Over 500 hours on the game, he got amazing gear only to get the ban hammer because of Blizz's horrendous customer policy of "guilty until proven guilty".

    If a screen shot of you buying an item from Blizzard’s own D3 AH does nothing for your case and still get you banned, I can no longer trust nor will buy anything from them again. The worst customer service ever.
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    wolley74 , August 19, 2012 1:11 AM
    Always online DRM would stop this they said, Always online would be FIIINE they said,

    **** THAT AND LET ME PLAY IT WHEN AND WHERE I WANT, NOT JUST WHEN MY NET CAN SUPPORT IT
  • 38 Hide
    alextheblue , August 19, 2012 1:11 AM
    Well... it wouldn't be a true Diablo sequel without a little duping.
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    aznguy0028 , August 19, 2012 1:16 AM
    Blizzard's support is TERRIBLE. I personally know one of these players in question and have been gaming with him for ages. When he bought his source off the auction house, I was there with him on vent. He bought it for 400 mil and even has the screenshot to prove it. Blizzard still banned his account for allegedly hacking and duping. When he showed them the screenshot to tell them his side of the story, nothing changed. Over 500 hours on the game, he got amazing gear only to get the ban hammer because of Blizz's horrendous customer policy of "guilty until proven guilty".

    If a screen shot of you buying an item from Blizzard’s own D3 AH does nothing for your case and still get you banned, I can no longer trust nor will buy anything from them again. The worst customer service ever.
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    alextheblue , August 19, 2012 1:20 AM
    Wolley74Always online DRM would stop this they said, Always online would be FIIINE they said, **** THAT AND LET ME PLAY IT WHEN AND WHERE I WANT, NOT JUST WHEN MY NET CAN SUPPORT IT
    Well all jokes aside... it has a lot of drawbacks, but they actually have cut down on cheating quite a bit. Diablo and Diablo II were ridiculous hackfests online. Every time they patched they were re-exploited to the max very quickly - and I'm not just talking item duping. So while its far from perfect, it's still a lot better in that particular regard. You're probably too young to remember, though.

    Now, I think they SHOULD have an offline-only mode that supports solo and LAN play. But character data and gear from this mode should not be able to touch battle.net in any way. Also, that would promote piracy to a lesser extent, but enough people already own the game so it would make a nice addition at this point. I know when I showed up at LANs about half the players had legit copies of Diablo II and half didn't. Making sure everyone, pirated or otherwise, was using the same patch version was a PITA.
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    Anonymous , August 19, 2012 1:20 AM
    It says at the bottom of the character page when it was last updated...
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    jalek , August 19, 2012 1:29 AM
    That's a lot of sales they'll never get just to support PvP in a dungeon exploration game.
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    Mav-VRX , August 19, 2012 1:36 AM
    They got banned from buying from the AH? Even when Blizzard keeps a history of the purchases? Wow...
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    lancelot123 , August 19, 2012 3:09 AM
    It is an inside job. Someone working for Blizzard is doing the duping. This was one of the theories on how the Diablo 2 duping was being carried out as NOBODY knows how it was happening.
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    A Bad Day , August 19, 2012 3:12 AM
    Marketing: Because it's more important to make it look good than to provide adequate support.
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    carnage9270 , August 19, 2012 3:38 AM
    aznguy0028Blizzard's support is TERRIBLE. I personally know one of these players in question and have been gaming with him for ages. When he bought his source off the auction house, I was there with him on vent. He bought it for 400 mil and even has the screenshot to prove it. Blizzard still banned his account for allegedly hacking and duping. When he showed them the screenshot to tell them his side of the story, nothing changed. Over 500 hours on the game, he got amazing gear only to get the ban hammer because of Blizz's horrendous customer policy of "guilty until proven guilty". If a screen shot of you buying an item from Blizzard’s own D3 AH does nothing for your case and still get you banned, I can no longer trust nor will buy anything from them again. The worst customer service ever.


    Why exactly would a person go as far as providing a screenshot of purchasing an item in the AH unless they figured they would need to at a later date...doesn't make sense.
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    aznguy0028 , August 19, 2012 4:26 AM
    carnage9270Why exactly would a person go as far as providing a screenshot of purchasing an item in the AH unless they figured they would need to at a later date...doesn't make sense.

    When the thread was brought up on D3's forum, the OP didn't want to suggest that the players in question were duping or hacking, merely pointing out the fact that there are 6 duplicate high valued sources (all BS to me). When we saw that, we knew that Blizz was going to take action against the players (because it was a hot thread, surely would get their attention) so he went through his AH to find the record of him buying the source in a legit manner and not attaining it by any illegal means against the t.o.s. So logically, we thought that since it's Blizz AH, buying an item off there with a picture record will prove his innocence (even though Blizz says they have an AH record for everyone.) In the end, it didn't turn out that way. He still got banned even after calling/emailing dozens of time with proof.

    How can I trust a company's AH when buying a high value item on their service can get me banned? So the burden of proof is on the customer when I’m trying to buy an upgrade? How am I suppose to know it’s duped (if it even was somehow), am I suppose to search every inch of the internet for duplicate items just to make sure it’s safe? Their 24/7 online DRM policy/AH is suppose to prevent all this. Yet in the end, the customer got the shaft. I'm done with Blizzard, they have lost me as a customer after what they did to my friend.
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    alidan , August 19, 2012 5:02 AM
    carnage9270Why exactly would a person go as far as providing a screenshot of purchasing an item in the AH unless they figured they would need to at a later date...doesn't make sense.

    to send it to friends and show them the awesome you just bought? god knows i do that allot in games me and friends use to play, find something really awesome, you screenshot that before and after you buy it and are wearing it.

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    that said, what are the odds of it dropping with those stats... lets not take into account the numbers quoted, because i dont believe any of that is client side, so the numbers are made up of a far larger range than there really is.

    borderlands, how many gun combanatins are there? but i played long enough that i found 2 that are exactly the same, down to their hidden stats.
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    kinggraves , August 19, 2012 5:04 AM
    aznguy0028When the thread was brought up on D3's forum, the OP didn't want to suggest that the players in question were duping or hacking, merely pointing out the fact that there are 6 duplicate high valued sources (all BS to me). When we saw that, we knew that Blizz was going to take action against the players (because it was a hot thread, surely would get their attention) so he went through his AH to find the record of him buying the source in a legit manner and not attaining it by any illegal means against the t.o.s. So logically, we thought that since it's Blizz AH, buying an item off there with a picture record will prove his innocence (even though Blizz says they have an AH record for everyone.) In the end, it didn't turn out that way. He still got banned even after calling/emailing dozens of time with proof.


    So, you've been "gaming" with this individual for a long time? Did you ever play any MMOs with an AH before? Because most people that have played MMOs know that AHs are sometimes used to move items between accounts. They are also used by hackers to launder things between their hacked and legit accounts. Whether or not he bought it off the AH doesn't matter because someone who knows an item is duped could still purposely place it on AH and immediately go and buy it with another account. It isn't that Blizzard didn't believe he bought it off AH, it's that it doesn't matter if he did. Buying something off AH doesnt make it legit.

    Now, your friend might not deserve a permaban for it, he could have bought it thinking it was a legit item. That depends on whether or not the item was priced obviously lower than it should be, if multiples of that item were posted at the same time, or if he bought it shortly after it was posted. They do have records of all AH transactions as well as anything else that passes through the server, if they bother to dig it up. You still get a slap on the wrist in the real world even if you unknowingly buy stolen goods. You can't claim you thought the guy selling rolexes out of the back of his car for 10 dollars was a licensed salesman. If you don't think that's fair...too bad. It's the policy of pretty much all MMOs. Hackers know how to make themselves look legit so there's no point taking screenshots as "evidence". He should have just PMed a mod and told them he thought one of his items may be a forgery.
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    schnitter , August 19, 2012 5:05 AM
    I would say MORE than 6 players have the same items. Me and 3 friends have the EXACT same items on our characters. Yes, you read it right. We are all NAKED because we sold all the items for gold and gave it to the only other friend who remained playing, who shortly quit aswell.
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    therabiddeer , August 19, 2012 5:22 AM
    aznguy0028Blizzard's support is TERRIBLE. I personally know one of these players in question and have been gaming with him for ages. When he bought his source off the auction house, I was there with him on vent. He bought it for 400 mil and even has the screenshot to prove it. Blizzard still banned his account for allegedly hacking and duping. When he showed them the screenshot to tell them his side of the story, nothing changed. Over 500 hours on the game, he got amazing gear only to get the ban hammer because of Blizz's horrendous customer policy of "guilty until proven guilty". If a screen shot of you buying an item from Blizzard’s own D3 AH does nothing for your case and still get you banned, I can no longer trust nor will buy anything from them again. The worst customer service ever.

    Yea I knew a guy once. Blizzard actually gave him 50 billion gold. You can choose to believe me or not, doesnt really matter since this is the internet and you cant prove me wrong.
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    slabbo , August 19, 2012 5:34 AM
    what's to stop the programmers from duping and selling the best stuff on the RMAH? probably not much that the programmers can't get around. so before blizz starts blaming people, most of it is probably in-house.
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    bin1127 , August 19, 2012 7:00 AM
    Of course Faetal removed all his gear. I would too if I spent a hundred bucks for digital duped war equipment.
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    olaf , August 19, 2012 11:14 AM
    geez and this makes it into the news in a tech site.... gossip much ?
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    assasin32 , August 19, 2012 12:06 PM
    alidanborderlands, how many gun combanatins are there? but i played long enough that i found 2 that are exactly the same, down to their hidden stats.


    I've done the same on the same character before was quite surprised too. Also found identical guns stat wise but different levels I think. And numerous near identical but off by 1 small value in a stat here or there. So playing the numbers don't always tell the whole picture, as even if there are over 16billion weapon combinations that can drop. How many weapon combo's can drop at that time? As I highly doubt a lv40 weapon will drop for a lv15 player.
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    infernocy , August 19, 2012 3:56 PM
    i stopped playing this terrible game long time ago ---
    but the biggest fail was the wizard god mode , that was a really big fail

    shitzard and jay ' end of diablo series ' wilson really took this too far and as far as the customer service , it currently on non existence mode
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