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Apple is the Leader in Admitting Software Bugs

by - source: Tom's Hardware US

Apple's grown a lot in the last year... in more areas than just product sales.

Apple is the new leader in reports of software holes and insecurities, according to security company Secunia.

To be fair, the Secunia's method tracks the number of publically reported security flaws, leaving Apple's taking the number one spot to be interpreted in different ways.

For one, Apple's reported flaws could mean that the company is more vigilant than others in reporting and fixing bugs in its software. Of course, the flipside to that is that Apple's software has to have those flaws in the first place, otherwise there'd be nothing to report on. Apple's security flaws don't come primarily from its OS X operating system, but rather mostly stem from software like Safari, QuickTime and iTunes.

Apple took the bug list lead over from Oracle, which held the crown for most reports from 2006 to 2009. Microsoft maintained its ranking at third, as it has over the past three years.

Check out the full PDF report here.

(via Ars Technica.)

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zorky9 07/23/2010 1:19 AM
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because they are.

mavanhel 07/23/2010 1:22 AM
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That's a terrible graph. Who decided to use 3 shades of green!? I can't tell which one is HP and which one is Adobe.

r0x0r 07/23/2010 1:25 AM
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Quote :Apple's security flaws don't come primarily from its OS X operating system, but rather mostly stem from software like Safari, QuickTime and iTunes.


Quicktime! That brings back some memories. Not good memories, but memories all the same...

*Anyone else remember yelling at the monitor and screaming "Why did you become the default media player, WITHOUT MY PERMISSION, for a file that you CAN'T EVEN F**KING PLAY!!!"?

cheepstuff 07/23/2010 1:27 AM
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if only they were that vigilant when it comes to hardware bugs...

darraghcoy 07/23/2010 1:34 AM
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If we take the number of bugs found and use that as a metric to estimate the number of bugs NOT found (Say 70% of all bugs remain hidden), then what does that say about the quality of those at the 'top' of the list?

http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010 [...] oln-index/

Simple11 07/23/2010 1:35 AM
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Their hardware isn't targeted to the 'enthusiast' community ie US. It's targeted to the general public who isn't computer literate and who don't need a quad core CPU or a GOOD dedicated GPU. It's not a bug, but a marketing strategy, and judging by their recent quarter, it's working. Can't blame apple for being smart in 1 category.

FLAME ON

marraco 07/23/2010 1:38 AM
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Suuure

For example, the cheat iPhone signal bars. Wait! that one don't was a bug. It was a by-design cheat.

My experience as apply user taughtme that the company excuses away the bugs. Never fix them.
Their solutions is "don't do that".

adikos 07/23/2010 1:40 AM
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mavanhel :
That's a terrible graph. Who decided to use 3 shades of green!? I can't tell which one is HP and which one is Adobe.



i think youre holding the graph wrong

jaysbob 07/23/2010 1:43 AM
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I thought apple just called them "features"

frye 07/23/2010 1:49 AM
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And what place do they hold in regard to hardware bugs?

Strider-Hiryu_79 07/23/2010 1:56 AM
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It's no wonder they dropped the "It just works!" slogan.

gm0n3y 07/23/2010 1:57 AM
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I read this on Engadget earlier today and the reporting difference is kinda funny.

Engadget: "Secunia ranks Apple first in software insecurity"
Toms: "Apple is the Leader in Admitting Software Bugs"

I would have thought that Engadget was more pro-Apple than Toms, I guess not.

Strider-Hiryu_79 07/23/2010 1:59 AM
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gm0n3y :
I read this on Engadget earlier today and the reporting difference is kinda funny.Engadget: "Secunia ranks Apple first in software insecurity"Toms: "Apple is the Leader in Admitting Software Bugs"I would have thought that Engadget was more pro-Apple than Toms, I guess not.



I think apple stopped supplying both with freebie apple products for the time being and articles like these are posted out of spite until the freebies start shipping to them again.

But that's just me.

Assmar 07/23/2010 2:04 AM
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adikos :
i think youre holding the graph wrong


Could be color blind, no?

MrHectorEric 07/23/2010 2:23 AM
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Love the discontinuity in reporting, a title that states "Apple is the Leader in Admitting Software Bugs" yet based off a graph with the title "Rank of top-10 vendors with most vulnerabilities," and Apple in the top spot...

thrust2night 07/23/2010 2:24 AM
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Wait. What? I thought they just worked.

CygnusX 07/23/2010 2:31 AM
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omg does 50% of news have to be about apple and their crappy products ?

Camikazi 07/23/2010 2:35 AM
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thrust2night :
Wait. What? I thought they just worked.


They do just work, but they never said it would work consistently, reliably, correctly or securely.

Marco925 07/23/2010 3:07 AM
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I guess "It just works" doesn't cut it for apple anymore?

cyprod 07/23/2010 3:08 AM
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Yeah, I have to agree with others Marcus. That graph has no relation in anyway to "admitting" bugs. It looks more like the number of either a) vulnerabilities patched, or b) vulnerabilities reported by security companies.

To make this in any way, shape or form "pro-apple" like you're trying to spin it, it would have to show a percentage of total bugs fixed at the bare minimum, or better, percentage of bugs fixed vs the total number filed.

Maybe that information was included in the report, but your article provides none of that supporting information. You say yourself in the article "Secunia's method tracks the number of publically reported security flaws" which doesn't even indicate apple admitted to them.

JOSHSKORN 07/23/2010 3:13 AM
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You'd better be careful how you hold that graph

snotling 07/23/2010 3:36 AM
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Marco925 :
I guess "It just works" doesn't cut it for apple anymore?


they could try: "it just worked"

JonathanDeane 07/23/2010 4:17 AM
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r0x0r :
Quicktime! That brings back some memories. Not good memories, but memories all the same...*Anyone else remember yelling at the monitor and screaming "Why did you become the default media player, WITHOUT MY PERMISSION, for a file that you CAN'T EVEN F**KING PLAY!!!"?



+1 lol

I remember for years that if you tried to install quicktime on my machine, I would probably cut off your fingers.... I use it now as its a lot more well behaved but only as a back up for files that refuse to play in anything else. I use an alternative to iTunes for my iPod... I think I understand where some of my dislike of Apple is coming from now... lol

jsm6746 07/23/2010 4:33 AM
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ha... ars (an apple biased site) wrote this up like apple was suddenly a security mess, and tom's (a pc biased site) wrote this up like apple was doing good in reporting bugs on their stuff (which are security vulnerabilities, not just 'bugs')... sheesh...

what we 'all' should walk away with this is, the trend is moving away from ms, and onto third party extensions... (oracle java, apple itunes, adobe reader)

mayne92 07/23/2010 4:56 AM
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mavanhel :
That's a terrible graph. Who decided to use 3 shades of green!? I can't tell which one is HP and which one is Adobe.


LMFAO!!!!
I was JUST thinking the same thing!

mayne92 07/23/2010 4:58 AM
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adikos :
i think youre holding the graph wrong


+1000 LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I may just be overtired...but I couldn't help bursting out in laughter!

xerroz 07/23/2010 5:36 AM
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because their products fail so hard theyre filled with software bugs

failboat 07/23/2010 5:52 AM
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Terrible graph.

eddieroolz 07/23/2010 6:40 AM
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Never seen Apple admit a bug publicly, but I've seen plenty of times when Apple sweeps it under a rug and silently patch it after few months.

BulkZerker 07/23/2010 7:05 AM
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Yanno, all this hate towards apple really kicked off once people learned the Iphone4 has signal issues... I wonder what'll happen when they learn that the battery installed in said phone doubles as a fregmentation grenade? (Ala iPod & MacBook)

jackleung 07/23/2010 7:54 AM
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JonathanDeane :
+1 lolI remember for years that if you tried to install quicktime on my machine, I would probably cut off your fingers....

I would avoid install quicktime at all cost. Luckily there is "quicktime alternative" codec to play quicktime movie (the same goes for real alternative for rmvb).

Back to the topic, isn't Apple famous for removing threads on it's own forum for any of their issue? WTF they can be the leader in admitting any wrong doing?


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