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Apple is the Leader in Admitting Software Bugs

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Apple's grown a lot in the last year... in more areas than just product sales.

Apple is the new leader in reports of software holes and insecurities, according to security company Secunia.

To be fair, the Secunia's method tracks the number of publically reported security flaws, leaving Apple's taking the number one spot to be interpreted in different ways.

For one, Apple's reported flaws could mean that the company is more vigilant than others in reporting and fixing bugs in its software. Of course, the flipside to that is that Apple's software has to have those flaws in the first place, otherwise there'd be nothing to report on. Apple's security flaws don't come primarily from its OS X operating system, but rather mostly stem from software like Safari, QuickTime and iTunes.

Apple took the bug list lead over from Oracle, which held the crown for most reports from 2006 to 2009. Microsoft maintained its ranking at third, as it has over the past three years.

Check out the full PDF report here.

(via Ars Technica.)

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    r0x0r , July 22, 2010 11:25 PM
    Quote:
    Apple's security flaws don't come primarily from its OS X operating system, but rather mostly stem from software like Safari, QuickTime and iTunes.


    Quicktime! That brings back some memories. Not good memories, but memories all the same...

    *Anyone else remember yelling at the monitor and screaming "Why did you become the default media player, WITHOUT MY PERMISSION, for a file that you CAN'T EVEN F**KING PLAY!!!"?
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    adikos , July 22, 2010 11:40 PM
    mavanhelThat's a terrible graph. Who decided to use 3 shades of green!? I can't tell which one is HP and which one is Adobe.


    i think youre holding the graph wrong
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    mavanhel , July 22, 2010 11:22 PM
    That's a terrible graph. Who decided to use 3 shades of green!? I can't tell which one is HP and which one is Adobe.
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    zorky9 , July 22, 2010 11:19 PM
    because they are.
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    mavanhel , July 22, 2010 11:22 PM
    That's a terrible graph. Who decided to use 3 shades of green!? I can't tell which one is HP and which one is Adobe.
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    r0x0r , July 22, 2010 11:25 PM
    Quote:
    Apple's security flaws don't come primarily from its OS X operating system, but rather mostly stem from software like Safari, QuickTime and iTunes.


    Quicktime! That brings back some memories. Not good memories, but memories all the same...

    *Anyone else remember yelling at the monitor and screaming "Why did you become the default media player, WITHOUT MY PERMISSION, for a file that you CAN'T EVEN F**KING PLAY!!!"?
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    cheepstuff , July 22, 2010 11:27 PM
    if only they were that vigilant when it comes to hardware bugs...
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    darraghcoy , July 22, 2010 11:34 PM
    If we take the number of bugs found and use that as a metric to estimate the number of bugs NOT found (Say 70% of all bugs remain hidden), then what does that say about the quality of those at the 'top' of the list?

    http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2010/07/13/lincoln-index/
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    Simple11 , July 22, 2010 11:35 PM
    Their hardware isn't targeted to the 'enthusiast' community ie US. It's targeted to the general public who isn't computer literate and who don't need a quad core CPU or a GOOD dedicated GPU. It's not a bug, but a marketing strategy, and judging by their recent quarter, it's working. Can't blame apple for being smart in 1 category.

    FLAME ON
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    marraco , July 22, 2010 11:38 PM
    Suuure

    For example, the cheat iPhone signal bars. Wait! that one don't was a bug. It was a by-design cheat.

    My experience as apply user taughtme that the company excuses away the bugs. Never fix them.
    Their solutions is "don't do that".
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    adikos , July 22, 2010 11:40 PM
    mavanhelThat's a terrible graph. Who decided to use 3 shades of green!? I can't tell which one is HP and which one is Adobe.


    i think youre holding the graph wrong
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    jaysbob , July 22, 2010 11:43 PM
    I thought apple just called them "features"
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    frye , July 22, 2010 11:49 PM
    And what place do they hold in regard to hardware bugs?
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    Strider-Hiryu_79 , July 22, 2010 11:56 PM
    It's no wonder they dropped the "It just works!" slogan.
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    gm0n3y , July 22, 2010 11:57 PM
    I read this on Engadget earlier today and the reporting difference is kinda funny.

    Engadget: "Secunia ranks Apple first in software insecurity"
    Toms: "Apple is the Leader in Admitting Software Bugs"

    I would have thought that Engadget was more pro-Apple than Toms, I guess not.
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    Strider-Hiryu_79 , July 22, 2010 11:59 PM
    gm0n3yI read this on Engadget earlier today and the reporting difference is kinda funny.Engadget: "Secunia ranks Apple first in software insecurity"Toms: "Apple is the Leader in Admitting Software Bugs"I would have thought that Engadget was more pro-Apple than Toms, I guess not.


    I think apple stopped supplying both with freebie apple products for the time being and articles like these are posted out of spite until the freebies start shipping to them again.

    But that's just me.
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    Assmar , July 23, 2010 12:04 AM
    adikosi think youre holding the graph wrong

    Could be color blind, no?
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    MrHectorEric , July 23, 2010 12:23 AM
    Love the discontinuity in reporting, a title that states "Apple is the Leader in Admitting Software Bugs" yet based off a graph with the title "Rank of top-10 vendors with most vulnerabilities," and Apple in the top spot...
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    thrust2night , July 23, 2010 12:24 AM
    Wait. What? I thought they just worked.
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    CygnusX , July 23, 2010 12:31 AM
    omg does 50% of news have to be about apple and their crappy products ?
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    Camikazi , July 23, 2010 12:35 AM
    thrust2nightWait. What? I thought they just worked.

    They do just work, but they never said it would work consistently, reliably, correctly or securely.
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    Marco925 , July 23, 2010 1:07 AM
    I guess "It just works" doesn't cut it for apple anymore?
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    cyprod , July 23, 2010 1:08 AM
    Yeah, I have to agree with others Marcus. That graph has no relation in anyway to "admitting" bugs. It looks more like the number of either a) vulnerabilities patched, or b) vulnerabilities reported by security companies.

    To make this in any way, shape or form "pro-apple" like you're trying to spin it, it would have to show a percentage of total bugs fixed at the bare minimum, or better, percentage of bugs fixed vs the total number filed.

    Maybe that information was included in the report, but your article provides none of that supporting information. You say yourself in the article "Secunia's method tracks the number of publically reported security flaws" which doesn't even indicate apple admitted to them.
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