Latest Mac OS X Still Not Liking Intel Atom
Nope, still not working.
So the saga continues. While tinkering around with a developer build of the next version of Snow Leopard Mac OS X 10.6.2, modders found that netbooks running an Intel Atom processor were unable to boot Apple's latest OS version.
Of course, the only way for anyone to discover this change was if someone was trying to run Mac OS X on a PC-based netbook. Nevertheless, this lead to much speculation that Apple is actively trying to lock out the netbook hackintosh crowd.
Then word came that a newer build of 10.6.2 brought back Atom support, making the modding community feel good and safe again. Sadly, it turns out that newer build was a fake and that the very latest developer seed still doesn't have Atom support – at least not on known hackintosh configurations.
So for now, it seems that hackintosh netbook owners will be living in uncertainty.
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no need for osx
This might make it annoying for people trying to update from 10.6.1 to 10.6.2 but I hardly think it will be an issue with people doing clean installs. If Atom support was there in 10.6.1 it seems like there will be "patched" 10.6.2 version with Atom support up on the torrent sites within days of release.
Yeah, it seems every time a company tries to prevent something, people break through and do it anyway. Someone will figure out a way to run it on the Atom CPU, and it won't take long. Why bother though when Win7 is more polished, more stable, faster and supports more software?
Just use Linux. Seriously it's not like you're gonna play games or run CS4 on a netbook. If all you're gonna do is watch youtube, surf the net, and maybe do some office apps you're better off with Linux.
who care who want a crapple operation system anyway its just linux with some mods. but you can get most of those mods thru downloads anyway
Looks like Apple will do anything to keep their POS OS locked only on their H/W. Couldn't care less...
Serously, why would one want to degrade their netbook with OS X? Even WinXP is better, not to mention Win 7... And if you want to go lite, then Ubuntu.
I "like" how Marcus uses the word 'hackintosh' repeatedly, as if their owners were some low-life hackers; listen, buddy, if I buy a piece of hardware and a piece of software to put on it, then I can do whatever I want with it, capisci? So don't try to step on our toes when it's not called for!
Looks like Apple will do anything to keep their POS OS locked only on their H/W. Couldn't care less...Serously, why would one want to degrade their netbook with OS X? Even WinXP is better, not to mention Win 7... And if you want to go lite, then Ubuntu. I "like" how Marcus uses the word 'hackintosh' repeatedly, as if their owners were some low-life hackers; listen, buddy, if I buy a piece of hardware and a piece of software to put on it, then I can do whatever I want with it, capisci? So don't try to step on our toes when it's not called for!
It's called a hackintosh.
Some people may want OSX on their netbook, and that's their choice.
Looks like Apple will do anything to keep their POS OS locked only on their H/W. Couldn't care less...Serously, why would one want to degrade their netbook with OS X? Even WinXP is better, not to mention Win 7... And if you want to go lite, then Ubuntu. I "like" how Marcus uses the word 'hackintosh' repeatedly, as if their owners were some low-life hackers; listen, buddy, if I buy a piece of hardware and a piece of software to put on it, then I can do whatever I want with it, capisci? So don't try to step on our toes when it's not called for!
hackintosh is just the accepted name for this type of setup using non-apple hardware. He's not insulting your mother or anything, he's simply calling a horse a horse.
This news is hardly surprising. Did they think the apple engineers would care to support additional hardware they wont see a profit from? Who do they think they are, microsoft?
who said mac OS X was better than windows!
Thank you Win7!
I installed OSX86 on my laptop over the weekend.
WHY do people like this o/s? it sucks! haha. I got everything working on my laptop but uhhhh what's there to do in it that Windows 7 can't do? Windows 95/98/xp/vista/7 can do more than this silly thing I wasted my time on.
Tom's Hardware needs to kinda tone down the mac articles, this o/s is fine for surfing the web and listening to mp3s I guess but FEH! Bring on more interesting news.
Hey bring me an Atom with Windows XP in it I'll have more fun than osx LOL
Apple's worse than a BSOD!
It just doesn't run ANYTHING AT ALL on an Atom!
Shows how crappy their mentality really is!
who care who want a crapple operation system anyway its just linux with some mods. but you can get most of those mods thru downloads anyway
It is Darwin but yeah seriously....
Apple's worse than a BSOD!It just doesn't run ANYTHING AT ALL on an Atom!Shows how crappy their mentality really is!
Kernel panic screens are things that no mac user ever mentions and they go tee-hee at the BSOD screens. These are computers, either one can crash. My aunt says that her coworkers hated macs when they had them because they were always going into kernel panic or freezing up. lol.
I installed OSX86 on my laptop over the weekend.WHY do people like this o/s? it sucks! haha. I got everything working on my laptop but uhhhh what's there to do in it that Windows 7 can't do? Windows 95/98/xp/vista/7 can do more than this silly thing I wasted my time on.Tom's Hardware needs to kinda tone down the mac articles, this o/s is fine for surfing the web and listening to mp3s I guess but FEH! Bring on more interesting news.Hey bring me an Atom with Windows XP in it I'll have more fun than osx LOL
Amen My friend who was a devoted mac fan switched to windows 7 he even finds it more stable he sold his piece of crap imac and got a real pc and i installed windows 7 on it he wanted some software boom he found some in seconds vs what would have took hours on a mac
Kernel panic screens are things that no mac user ever mentions and they go tee-hee at the BSOD screens. These are computers, either one can crash. My aunt says that her coworkers hated macs when they had them because they were always going into kernel panic or freezing up. lol.
Haha ye and with a kernal panic you got no clue what went wrong atleast with a blue screen it does a ram dump.. which can help a bit
I agree with everyone here. I don't see why people would want to get OSX to run on a netbook anyways. It's not like OSX really does anything more than 7 or Ubuntu can't do...
Wow at the fanboys here. Jeez you guys get worked up about OS X. It's pretty funny. Oh yeah, and sad.
Looks like Apple will do anything to keep their POS OS locked only on their H/W. Couldn't care less...Serously, why would one want to degrade their netbook with OS X? Even WinXP is better, not to mention Win 7... And if you want to go lite, then Ubuntu. I "like" how Marcus uses the word 'hackintosh' repeatedly, as if their owners were some low-life hackers; listen, buddy, if I buy a piece of hardware and a piece of software to put on it, then I can do whatever I want with it, capisci? So don't try to step on our toes when it's not called for!
Actually, everyone refers to it as a Hackintosh (in the past it required some serious hacking to get it to load on a standard PC - in recent months however a retail DVD is required).
As for your last statement, believe it or not the entertainment industry has gone a long way in screwing you out of that right...ever heard of the DMCA? That being said, it seems that Apple seems fairly easy going on this - there's plenty of sites dedicated to helping people get OS X on standard PCs running and Apple is leaving them alone.
It's Apple's business if they want to alienate potential customers who want to use their OS on a netbook. I don't see what the big deal is myself. Apple could surely see an upside to more people using their OS, which in turn could potentially lead more to switch to MACs down the road.
I hate apple just as much as the next guy (here at tom's anyways) but I have OSX installed on my dell mini and it's awesome. XP and Win7 run like crap after all the AV software you have to use in windows. My first choice would have been ubuntu netbook remix but I only chose OSX over linux because of MS Office (I really don't like open office)
Seriously you guys need to run OSX on your netbook to fully appreciate it. It works very fast and does everything I need it to. Plus it was DIY so I didn't pay the Apple tax and I can laugh at the iDiots that payed $$$$ for their POS mac hardware :-)
Wow a bunch of wanna-bee computer geeks pretending like they know something about different operating systems... it's a Pee-Cee Fan-Boi convention!
This is the downside to on-line forums. Everyone can talk out their ass about stuff they know nothing about and feel good about it. I'm sure most of you complaining above haven't used any OS other than Windows, and no version prior to XP.
It's obvious a lot of experienced computer users want to run OSX, Win 7 & Vista are more expensive, unproven (7) or bloated (Vista) Microsoft versions of Apples' OS design from 2001.
Now pee-cee weenies, you're welcome to miss a couple of virtual high-fives and neg-rate this post all you want.
For those of you who want to provide useful feedback regarding OSX discussion, Tom's is currently conducting a poll f/ a forum addition:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/32340-12-forum
i wonder how there blocking it out? anyone know if the atoms are missing some instruction sets that the later Pentiums and Intel cores have?
I think this is hillarious. Apple has every right to disallow people from using their OS on any given hardware. It's like getting pissed off that an XBOX 360 game won't run on a PS3. If you don't want to buy their complete package, then don't run their OS, simple as that. Win7 is more or less based off of WinVista, and we all know how wonderful of an OS that was. I find netbooks in general to be pretty terrible systems overall. Don't be cheap, spend an extra $200 and get a real computer. Tomshardware has said in the past that they are covering all news regarding all computers, Apple included, I say keep the articles coming, some of us find it interesting to know whats going on on the other side of the fence. Plus, if we want an idea of what Windows PCs and their operating system are going to look like 2-3 years from now, we just need to open up a Mac - it's like seeing the future!
Just a reason for more people to not give a f**k about OSx... I know I dont.
F notfree BSD aka OS X
Mardy Matt, I don't like buying the first model of anything because of bugs and glitches and being based on Vista but they improved version and based on reviews by toms here it is a 10% overall feel improve over vista with an XP compatibility mode along with less "aging" of the operating system on load times and reactivity. Mac? Future 2-3 years? with six year old hardware. Lots of macs posting good 3dMarks and siSoft scores. Do those run on Macs? Maybe those progs are only for fast computers lol Toms thanks for all of your articles and updates you guys are awesome.
And I quote: A Pimp Named Slickback, "B*tch Don't start with that 'we need another computer' sh** again! You say that sh** every time a new iMac comes out. You ain't slick! You better make that keyboard work b*tch and stop playin' with me!"
Look at all the - I get for badmouthing mac and all the + everyone else gets for badmouthing macs. Someone on this forum doesn't like me :-) Or I caught the Mac user's eye yet again with my thoughtful posts.
It's obvious a lot of experienced computer users want to run OSX, Win 7 & Vista are more expensive
How can you say this with a straight face? If you were to upgrade OSX from anything except 10.5, to 10.6, it'll cost you $169. You can buy a full copy of Win7 Home from Newegg for less than $110. So please, tell me, how is Windows more expensive than OSX, unless you're running 10.5? It cost my girlfriend $169 (before tax) to go from 10.4 to 10.6 for her Macbook Pro. So, how exactly is it cheaper?
How can you say this with a straight face? If you were to upgrade OSX from anything except 10.5, to 10.6, it'll cost you $169. You can buy a full copy of Win7 Home from Newegg for less than $110. So please, tell me, how is Windows more expensive than OSX, unless you're running 10.5? It cost my girlfriend $169 (before tax) to go from 10.4 to 10.6 for her Macbook Pro. So, how exactly is it cheaper?
also note there are tons of deals where you can get it from schools and businesses cheaper and i do not think there would ever be an OEM version of OSX that could make it cheaper like what they do with a copy of windows.