Russia prepares 128-core server platform for supercomputers: Report
But where do they plan to manufacture them?
With no access to modern technologies at scale, Russia badly needs high-performance computing for basically everything to keep its economics, and, well, war machine running. One of the ways it might seek to obtain compute performance is to develop its own HPC platforms, and this is apparently what Russian companies are doing, according to CNews. The source report talks of a 128-core processor platform and a platform around it.
Roselectronics, part of the Rostec state corporation, has developed a new software and hardware complex named Basis for high-performance computing and cloud services. This development relies entirely on domestic technologies and is designed by the Scientific Research Center for Electronic Computing (SRCEC), a part of Roselectronics.
The complex comprises of three general-purpose servers, each capable of supporting up to 128 processor cores and providing up to 2TB of RAM. Servers are interconnected using the Angara high-speed communication network, which was also developed by the SRCEC. This setup ensures ultra-low latency and high-intensity data exchange between servers, facilitating efficient computational operations across the cluster.
Basis is capable of scaling up to several hundred nodes and supports the creation of thousands of virtual workplaces. The data transmission channel of this complex allows for speeds of up to 75 Gbps, with a minimal communication delay of only 1 microsecond. According to the report, Basis can be used for setting up data processing and storage centers, virtualized offices, and servers for graphic applications. It is particularly effective in environments requiring supercomputing capabilities for unconventional calculations. This makes it ideal for engineering applications that necessitate virtualized workspaces with robust support for 3D graphics processing.
"The scope of application for the new software and hardware complex is very wide. For example, our technologies can easily handle the task of creating virtualized engineering workplaces with support for hardware processing of 3D graphics. The high data transmission capacity and flexible scaling system allow performing the most complex computational operations. Our specialists are ready to calculate and adapt our new SHC for specific tasks and customer needs," said Ruslan Dzeitov, CEO of SRCEC.
Made in China?
The biggest question is perhaps how Russia plans to produce this 128-core processor (or two 64-core processors?) as it is going to be a sizable piece of silicon, or multiple chiplets. While Russia has its own semiconductor production capacities, they — at 65nm-class — are completely outdated by now and the best that the country's chipmakers can do with proper economic efficiency are microcontrollers at best. Therefore, for a 128-core datacenter-class processor, the Roselektrica company will have to ask foreign partners.
Given the fact that Taiwan-based foundries are excluded from its options (e.g. TSMC, Vanguard, etc.) due to sanctions, the only way for Russia to produce this CPU is to ask Chinese foundries, namely SMIC and Hua Hong. SMIC has two generations of 7nm-class process technologies and the 2nd Generation 7nm-class process could be a good fit to make a datacenter class design. Meanwhile, it is unclear whether SMIC has enough 7nm capacity to produce chips for China's high-tech giant Huawei and the needs of Russia's industry.
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Anton Shilov is a contributing writer at Tom’s Hardware. Over the past couple of decades, he has covered everything from CPUs and GPUs to supercomputers and from modern process technologies and latest fab tools to high-tech industry trends.
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hotaru251 I do question how they actually think they'd make something competitive with the rets of world given even china that dumped a ton into the industry is still playing catch up..Reply
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bit_user Did it say what ISA these will be?Reply
Why do you omit Samsung from consideration? From what I've read, South Korea has been reluctant to impose restrictions on non-military trade with Russia. Maybe that's starting to change, but you don't seem to rule them either in or out.The article said:Given the fact that Taiwan-based foundries are excluded from its options (e.g. TSMC, Vanguard, etc.) due to sanctions, the only way for Russia to produce this CPU is to ask Chinese foundries, namely SMIC and Hua Hong. -
shady28 You don't have to be on the latest and greatest node to have a viable IT infrastructure for industry. For that matter, the vast majority of data center servers in use are not even on 7nm, they're using 14nm class chips. These things don't just disappear when a new node starts up.Reply
In fact, 7nm class server chips really didn't hit data centers much until ~2021. I know we just upgraded some VM infrastructure in 2023, brand new systems, using Ice Lake-SP. That's Intel 10nm (~same as TSMC N7). Unless you're Google or Amazon, the latest chips don't seem to be available for ~12-18 months after launch.
If you think that's odd, you'd be wrong. Look at Cisco's UCS offerings - all but the top end UCS blades are 3rd Gen Xeon (Ice Lake-SP), while the top dog is 4th Gen Xeon (Sapphire Rapids) which started mass production over 2 years ago. No Emerald Rapids.
~60% of the worlds 20nm-45nm production capacity is in China as well.
So sure, they are limited to tech that is very 2018/2019. Not exactly ancient history. -
Vanderlindemedia No organisation replaces its servers with brand new stuff. You need months or perhaps years of validation that the platform works as intended and within what your doing with it.Reply
Those sanctions just uphold nothing, other then China to reach advanced tech by themself and without the use of the western world really.
China will sooner or later have better products then the west. Just a matter of time. -
ThomasKinsley As astute commenters noted here Russia doesn't need the best, only what works good enough. Given that Intel and AMD are now in short supply, Russia will go about slowly building a viable semiconductor sector. In the short term it will require foreign assistance but in the long term they might make something work, even if it is out of necessity.Reply -
Chung Leong Given the low number of chips involved, does it really matter what tech is used to manufacture it? Getting fewer chips per wafer wouldn't affect the overall cost much, since R&D would remain the dominant factor.Reply -
ivan_vy
don't need to be better , just have a good benefit-cost ratio ... and talking about countries with imposed restrictions to tech access, just take whatever is available.Vanderlindemedia said:No organisation replaces its servers with brand new stuff. You need months or perhaps years of validation that the platform works as intended and within what your doing with it.
Those sanctions just uphold nothing, other then China to reach advanced tech by themself and without the use of the western world really.
China will sooner or later have better products then the west. Just a matter of time. -
ivan_vy
take care of people accusing you of having a political agenda.😒Vanderlindemedia said:China will sooner or later have better products then the west. Just a matter of time. -
ivan_vy
software is the real challenge, look at how MooreThreads GPU endeavor went, amazing HW on paper marred with bad drivers and that hampered software performance.ThomasKinsley said:As astute commenters noted here Russia doesn't need the best, only what works good enough. Given that Intel and AMD are now in short supply, Russia will go about slowly building a viable semiconductor sector. In the short term it will require foreign assistance but in the long term they might make something work, even if it is out of necessity.
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suryasans Putin's regime is very adept to get a workaround for sanctioned goods. Obviously, the only problem for Russia is its in house advanced packaging for its Chinese made chips. Russian chips size is in metrics.Reply