TSMC to charge premium for making chips outside of Taiwan, including its new US fabs, CEO says
Due to higher costs of power, labor, and materials.
In the recent years, TSMC has radically changed its strategy of making chips only in Taiwan and initiated expansion overseas. As a result, the company is now building up fabs in Germany, Japan, and the U.S. However, the world's top contract chip will charge its customers a premium if they want their chips to be made outside of Taiwan.
"If my customer requests to be in some certain area, then definitely, TSMC and the customer had to share the incremental cost," said C.C. Wei, chief executive of TSMC, at the earnings call with analysts and investors (via SeekingAlpha). "We do encounter some kind of higher cost in the overseas or even recently, the inflation and the electricity. We expect our customers to share some of the higher cost with us, and we already started our discussion with our customers."
Indeed, the costs of building fabs in Germany, Japan, and the U.S. are higher than the costs of building fabs in Taiwan and TSMC has complained about it a number of times in the past. The company even had to delay production start at its Fab 21 near Phoenix, Arizona, due to problems with tools installation and negotiations with trade unions.
Therefore, if a TSMC customer wants to produce its chips at a specific location, then the foundry will charge a premium. How high is that premium will be remains to be seen, but last year a media report indicated that chips made in Arizona on TSMC's N5 and N4 production nodes could be from 20% to 30% more expensive than the same chips produced in Taiwan.
Due to higher construction and operational expenses of fabs in Japan, Germany, and the U.S., TSMC plans to transfer these additional costs to its customers to sustain its target gross margin of 53%. Although American chip designers may not welcome the increased production costs in the U.S., they will probably manufacture chips intended for government and other markets less sensitive to price increases at the Arizona facility. Consequently, they should manage to pass on these higher costs to at least some of their end customers without jeopardizing their market competitiveness.
"In today's fragmented globalization environment, cost will be higher for everyone, including TSMC, our customers, our competitors and the entire semiconductor industry," the head of TSMC said. "We plan to manage and minimize the overseas cost gap by, first, pricing strategically to reflect the value of geographic flexibility; second, working closely with government to secure their support; and third, leveraging our fundamental advantage of manufacturing technology leadership, and our large-scale manufacturing base, which no other manufacturer in this industry can match."
It is noteworthy that C.C. Wei's phrasing implies that if a customer does not request a specific manufacturing location, then TSMC will not charge its 'location' premium. Meanwhile, it remains to be seen whether TSMC's yields in Taiwan, Germany, Japan, and the U.S. will be similar.
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Anton Shilov is a contributing writer at Tom’s Hardware. Over the past couple of decades, he has covered everything from CPUs and GPUs to supercomputers and from modern process technologies and latest fab tools to high-tech industry trends.
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Thunder64 Didn't TSMC just get billions from the CHIPS act? Time to call them up in a Darth Vader voice and tell them that the US is "altering the deal".Reply -
PEnns
US governments are infamous for bailing out / throwing money and grants at huge businesses and banks, no strings attached whatsoever!!Thunder64 said:Didn't TSMC just get billions from the CHIPS act? Time to call them up in a Darth Vader voice and tell them that the US is "altering the deal". -
ohio_buckeye Instead of funding these folks why aren’t we putting more money into companies like Intel Samsung and amd?Reply -
thestryker
Usually there are strings, but they may as well not exist in many cases. Intel had a situation in Arizona I recall where to get tax breaks on a new fab building the number of employees they needed to add was so low they'd met it before construction finished. Then they ended up not actually spinning up the fab in the new building (they undoubtedly have since).PEnns said:US governments are infamous for bailing out / throwing money and grants at huge businesses and banks, no strings attached whatsoever!! -
JamesJones44
Yep, then these companies are always allowed to add temporary jobs as "jobs created". They claim it will create 10k jobs, but in truth they might only employee 500 while the 9500 come from sub contracted work to build the facility, connect the infra, setup the office, etc. They don't actually "create" those jobs, but many times in these grants those are allowed to be counted.thestryker said:Usually there are strings, but they may as well not exist in many cases. Intel had a situation in Arizona I recall where to get tax breaks on a new fab building the number of employees they needed to add was so low they'd met it before construction finished. Then they ended up not actually spinning up the fab in the new building (they undoubtedly have since). -
Co BIY Makes sense. USA made for security reasons is like any other special requirement that one could expect to pay extra for.Reply
OTOH, They will probably also charge a premium for Taiwan produced products if the market conditions are favorable. -
Alvar "Miles" Udell It's not surprising, higher cost of production means higher cost of goods produced. The question, however, is what the impact will be on the total cost of that good. It may cost more to have it made in the USA, Germany, or Japan than in Taiwan, but if shipping costs are lower, not to mention being able to avoid busy shipping ports and potential disruptions, not to mention manufacturing lead time, then the total cost could easily be lower. AMD and nVidia will no doubt keep Taiwan as their base for GPUs as they are closer to their manufacturing plants and will perhaps venture out to Japan if Taiwan is busy. Automotive, aviation, and other companies which manufacture goods in the USA, EU, and Japan, however, may easily come out better sourcing their chips locally.Reply
We will also have to wait and see if Samsung, Texas Instruments, and Intel adopt the same policies. -
usertests
Flailing Intel is getting a lot of U.S. government money, some of which is being spent on TSMC chiplets.ohio_buckeye said:Instead of funding these folks why aren’t we putting more money into companies like Intel Samsung and amd? -
Starfal Fun times are coming. Stuff are already sky-high. I can't imagine things getting that much worse.Reply -
sivaseemakurthi Looks like US govt has to subsidize chip manufacturing forever, this will be a losing battle!Reply