TSMC could charge up to $45,000 for 1.6nm wafers — rumors allege a 50% increase in pricing over prior-gen wafers

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As TSMC is gearing up to start making chips on its N2 (2nm-class) process technology later this year, rumors have emerged regarding the pricing of N2 wafers, as well as the pricing of subsequent nodes. We already knew that TSMC reportedly plans to charge up to $30,000 per wafer processed using its N2 technology, but now Taiwan-based China Times reports that the company will charge up to $45,000 per wafer for 'more advanced nodes,' which allegedly points to the company's A16 (1.6nm-class) node.

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Rumored TSMC quotes (Unofficial)

Node

Rumored price

Year

A16

$45,000

2026 H2

N2

$30,000

2025 H2

N3

$18,000 - $20,000

2022 H2

N5

$16,000

2020

N7

$10,000

2018

N10

$6,000

2016

N28

$3,000

2014

40nm

$2,600

2008

90nm

$2,000

2004

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Anton Shilov
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Anton Shilov is a contributing writer at Tom’s Hardware. Over the past couple of decades, he has covered everything from CPUs and GPUs to supercomputers and from modern process technologies and latest fab tools to high-tech industry trends.

  • edzieba
    With an advertised density increase between 1.07x and 1.1x (may or may not be achievable in practice) and a price increase of 1.5x, cost/transistor climbs by 1.36x - 1.4x. Or in other words, 'just' a die shrink of an existing chip design becomes more expensive on a newer node.
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  • jp7189
    Bah. Barely a rounding error in nvidia's markup scheme.
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  • aldaia
    edzieba said:
    With an advertised density increase between 1.07x and 1.1x (may or may not be achievable in practice) and a price increase of 1.5x, cost/transistor climbs by 1.36x - 1.4x. Or in other words, 'just' a die shrink of an existing chip design becomes more expensive on a newer node.
    It has been like that for at least 10 years. Back in 2015, 28 nm transistors where cheaper than 20 nm and 16 nm. Which means that Moore law has been dead for a decade. If anyone has read the original Gordon Moore paper, its not about transistors per chip but about cost per transistor.
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  • jp7189
    Rumors suggest they are relying on multipatterning EUV rather than moving to high-NA. Their approach requires more steps, more time, and therefore more money vs N3.
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  • chaz_music
    I knew the backside power delivery would add cost, but I was not expecting this cost delta. That cost should go down over time as their process improves and yield goes up. But the yields on the first batches are going to be rather poor. In other words = $$$$$.

    The real cost jump (and massive performance jump) will occur when they transition to SiC (silicon carbide). It has a MUCH better thermal conductivity than standard old silicon, and a faster switching speed. It can also be made to create LEDs directly, unlike Si. So things like Oculink and other optical based comms can be made on die. I envision the PCIe bus to transition to optical this way (maybe). All of this will certainly come to servers first.

    But there are also RF type transistors such as GAN or GaAs (less thermal conductivity). Good options ...
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  • edzieba
    aldaia said:
    It has been like that for at least 10 years. Back in 2015, 28 nm transistors where cheaper than 20 nm and 16 nm. Which means that Moore law has been dead for a decade. If anyone has read the original Gordon Moore paper, its not about transistors per chip but about cost per transistor.
    Close: ~22mn was the inflection where cost-per-die-area started increasing per process stepping, but cost-per-transistor plateaued a few processes later (though has indeed been increasing for several years now).
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  • aldaia
    edzieba said:
    Close: ~22mn was the inflection where cost-per-die-area started increasing per process stepping, but cost-per-transistor plateaued a few processes later (though has indeed been increasing for several years now).
    Maybe for intel (although i think GF also had a 22nm node), but TSMC and Samsung had no 22 nm node, they had 28, 20 and 16/14. I have a slide that shows transistors per dollar in 2015 for the independent foundries, where 28nm > 20nm > 16/14 nm. Unfortunately i can't find the source anymore so i don't know how to include it here.

    Of course the smaller nodes still have many advantages, but transistors per dollar is not one of them anymore.
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