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  • Target3
    about time
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  • Lord Captivus
    We don’t have to rush to conclusions here...I’m assuming Apple Managers don’t like killing people.
    They will solve this problem.
    Many industries are facing the same issues.
    PS: I’m not an Apple Fanboy!
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  • mrmaia
    "You're supposed to think different. I want to continue to use and love the products you make, because they're changing the world, and have already changed my life.

    Apple is such a shitty company that even when you're bashing it, you have to praise it in order to have a slight chance of success.

    Were it in a different company, the owners and whoever responsible for such a situation would be already in jail.
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  • omnimodis78
    With the retail prices Apple charges for its products, they very well could afford to actually take a very miniscule cut in their profits and actually redirect said funds to providing their workers a dignified and professional work environment. For a company that markets itself on thinking outside of the box, they don't seem to grasp the hypocrisy between their cheap words and hard facts...
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  • LOL too all you. This is so much fun to see how people are totally wrong thanks to media actions.
    Foxconn is business partner for Apple - as well as many other companies.
    Foxconn is employer for its employees - Foxconn is directly responsible for their employees situation.
    I am not aware of any situation like: "Apple with barrel of a gun against the Foxconn head saying: hey, you, dude, kill some of your employees, ya?"
    So - why are you all interested in Apple actions? When it is all made by Foxconn?
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  • mrmaia
    SpaceExploLOL too all you. This is so much fun to see how people are totally wrong thanks to media actions.Foxconn is business partner for Apple - as well as many other companies.Foxconn is employer for its employees - Foxconn is directly responsible for their employees situation.I am not aware of any situation like: "Apple with barrel of a gun against the Foxconn head saying: hey, you, dude, kill some of your employees, ya?" So - why are you all interested in Apple actions? When it is all made by Foxconn?
    It seems like you don't have even the slightest clue of how market works. To keep things simple to you, I'll simulate a dialogue between an Apple and a Foxconn directors:

    A: You're charging me $50 for each iPad... and shipping only 50,000 of them a month! This is absurd, our margin will fall considerably like that.
    F: Sorry, that's the most we can do.
    A: So I'm afraid Apple will have to find another supplier.
    F: No, we need your money. What do you want from us?
    A: We want each iPad at $10 and 200,000 a month.
    F: WHAT? It's impossible, we don't even have workforce for that.
    A: I don't care, make it happen in a week or we're gone.
    F: How do you think we are going to implement such a radical change?
    A: Make your employees work, I don't care if they work 24 hours a day, nor for what they earn, nor for what their life quality... damn, not even for their life, they're expendable. I don't care for them, I care for our margins. Now you better start making those equipments, son.

    Got it?
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  • digitalzom-b
    omnimodis78With the retail prices Apple charges for its products, they very well could afford to actually take a very miniscule cut in their profits and actually redirect said funds to providing their workers a dignified and professional work environment. For a company that markets itself on thinking outside of the box, they don't seem to grasp the hypocrisy between their cheap words and hard facts...
    They could afford more than minuscule...
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  • -Fran-
    mrmaiaIt seems like you don't have even the slightest clue of how market works. To keep things simple to you, I'll simulate a dialogue between an Apple and a Foxconn directors:

    A: You're charging me $50 for each iPad... and shipping only 50,000 of them a month! This is absurd, our margin will fall considerably like that.
    F: Sorry, that's the most we can do.
    A: So I'm afraid Apple will have to find another supplier.
    F: No, we need your money. What do you want from us?
    A: We want each iPad at $10 and 200,000 a month.
    F: WHAT? It's impossible, we don't even have workforce for that.
    A: I don't care, make it happen in a week or we're gone.
    F: How do you think we are going to implement such a radical change?
    A: Make your employees work, I don't care if they work 24 hours a day, nor for what they earn, nor for what their life quality... damn, not even for their life, they're expendable. I don't care for them, I care for our margins. Now you better start making those equipments, son.

    Got it?
    Actually, it's not at all like that. The NYT article points that it's actually the other way around. Chinese factories are willing to sell the soul of their workers to get a contract with major players.

    In you same example, it went something like this:

    A: Ok, let's see if US factories can keep up!
    (...)
    A: No, they would have it at an enormous extra cost and many months behind schedule. Let's look for something else.
    F: Oh, hello! We are already building the extra factory you guys need and getting more workers for it! Also, don't forget it's dirt cheap your you. Here are some already finished products for you to look at.
    A: And you'll even make it on time while being cheaper? Darn... That sounds like profit! Can you make official statements about your workers being happy and all? We don't want bad press.
    F: Sure thing! The Government backs us up, so no sweat! These animals are easy to replace anyway.

    Now, that's more like it. And don't forget you can replace "Apple" with any other big tech company.

    Cheers!
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  • Ragnar-Kon
    mrmaiaApple is such a shitty company that even when you're bashing it, you have to praise it in order to have a slight chance of success.Were it in a different company, the owners and whoever responsible for such a situation would be already in jail.
    Then I suggest you send the CEOs and "whoever is responsible" of the other 15+ United States technology companies (that use the EXACT same Foxconn factories) to jail. This includes Microsoft, Dell, IBM, and others, Apple isn't the only one.

    People fail to realize that Apple isn't doing anything special here. They are no different than any other major technology company. What Apple can do is lead the industry by solving these labor issues. But even if they do that, people will STILL find a way to hate them.
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  • Why can't they move some of these jobs to the US? This kind of ecomomy gives Americans their iPads for $20 less today, but in the near future they won't have the money to buy iPads because their economy will be destroyed.
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