Intel: Fifty Years Under Moore's Law

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  • CaedenV
    Moore's law is truly an astounding principal, but it died some 10 years ago and Intel keeps redefining it in a weird fettish of keeping it true at all costs. It use to be the number of transistors per dollar, but then we started having so many transistors that this could not be sustained. Then it was effective processing power per dollar, which pushed them through another few generations... until raw performance hit a brick wall. Now it is popularly defined as performance per watt per dollar, which works out well right now as effective performance is at a near stand-still, but they are achieving that performance at lower and lower TDP. But that is only going to work for a few more years until they are done with their die-shrink campaign. It will be interesting to see how it gets redefined again in the next 5-10 years so that Intel can continue to claim that Moore's Law is still somehow with us.

    Don't get me wrong, the man was/is a visionary, and his 'Law' was totally unexpected but turned out to be very true for a very long time; truly a game changing paradigm in the industry. Intel just needs a new vision to follow... or perhaps just a little bit of competition from another chip maker in order to get them to make improved products again rather than sad incremental upgrades to existing products.
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  • aldaia
    A friend of mine, who works in the semiconductor industry, made another interesting prediction: "Intel will go bankrupt before recognizing that Moore's Law is over" :-)
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  • sykozis
    Intel isn't going to admit that "Moore's Law" is over, until someone proves it publicly....
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  • anthony8989
    If you had read the first comment you would understand that Moore's Law ended a decade ago. They've been moving the goal post ever since.
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  • ykki
    15719085 said:
    Intel isn't going to admit that "Moore's Law" is over, until someone proves it publicly....
    AMD already did that. http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-apu-efficient-goal-moore,27099.html
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  • right2myopinion
    Say what you want, but Intel CPUs are currently the best. If "Moore's Law" is what's driving them to achieve higher standards, then by all means continue because we (the consumers) greatly benefit from it. I don't care if it's Intel, AMD, etc., competition is great for business and innovation. At first it was clock speed, then multi core, can't wait to see what's next.
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  • bin1127
    Since moore's law ushered in the age of semiconductors, the law will probably only fade away when a new law predicting a completely genuine type of computer processing is possible. Maybe quantum computing will finally retire moore's law and a whole new era to innovate begins anew.
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  • beetlejuicegr
    Since moore's law ushered in the age of semiconductors, the law will probably only fade away when a new law predicting a completely genuine type of computer processing is possible. Maybe quantum computing will finally retire moore's law and a whole new era to innovate begins anew.

    On the contrary, i believe that if a new technology of computing appear, the moore law will live again as the rise in performance every few years will skyrocket again.

    Think about it, we say the moore law is now out of sync as newer chips are say declining in the performance acceleration of the last decades.

    It is like when moore thought about his law. They were not making semiconductors as they were expensive right? And he did his research and foreseen that the new technology will rise etc.


    So it's the same now. Semiconductors are going 3D etc etc etc but at some point things will change. Who knows, optical chips? Crazy stuff? crystal like chips? who knows, but when this happens , the performance will go acceleration mode again rising and rising till the next tech advancement.

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  • kinggremlin
    Moore's law is truly an astounding principal, but it died some 10 years ago and Intel keeps redefining it in a weird fettish of keeping it true at all costs. It use to be the number of transistors per dollar, but then we started having so many transistors that this could not be sustained. Then it was effective processing power per dollar, which pushed them through another few generations... until raw performance hit a brick wall. Now it is popularly defined as performance per watt per dollar, which works out well right now as effective performance is at a near stand-still, but they are achieving that performance at lower and lower TDP. But that is only going to work for a few more years until they are done with their die-shrink campaign. It will be interesting to see how it gets redefined again in the next 5-10 years so that Intel can continue to claim that Moore's Law is still somehow with us.

    Don't get me wrong, the man was/is a visionary, and his 'Law' was totally unexpected but turned out to be very true for a very long time; truly a game changing paradigm in the industry. Intel just needs a new vision to follow... or perhaps just a little bit of competition from another chip maker in order to get them to make improved products again rather than sad incremental upgrades to existing products.

    Not sure what you are talking about. Moore's law has NEVER been a performance measure. The actual observation that Moore made was that transistor count would double every 2 years in a dense integrated circuit. That's it. He made other observations in the same paper, but that's the only one that is labeled Moore's Law.

    The only other interpretation of Moore's Law that I've heard is that performance will double every 18 months. This in fact was stated by another Intel exec, and was not a prediction made by Moore.

    Having followed the industry for 30 years, I've never heard of any of the other interpretations you stated. TDP? What on earth, such a measure didn't even exist when Moore made his observation.
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  • CaedenV
    15721730 said:
    Not sure what you are talking about. Moore's law has NEVER been a performance measure. The actual observation that Moore made was that transistor count would double every 2 years in a dense integrated circuit. That's it. He made other observations in the same paper, but that's the only one that is labeled Moore's Law.

    The only other interpretation of Moore's Law that I've heard is that performance will double every 18 months. This in fact was stated by another Intel exec, and was not a prediction made by Moore.

    Having followed the industry for 30 years, I've never heard of any of the other interpretations you stated. TDP? What on earth, such a measure didn't even exist when Moore made his observation.

    That is exactly my point! But if you read the Moore's Law PR crap that comes out of Intel every few years you will find that they redefine it every few years to suit their whimsey. Moore's Law is dead, at least for transistor technology, and has been dead for a while, but they go through great lengths to redefine it every few years just so they can say it is alive and well. Sad thing is that Intel is the only ones who really care if Moore's Law is still around and they are starting to look a little silly.
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