PS5 Scalpers Explain How They Can Sleep at Night

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Playstation 5 scalpers are mad that people don’t like them, according to recent interviews they had with Forbes writer Janhoi McGregor, and it’s hilarious. The writer recently spoke to several British scalpers who were trying to recover their public image, probably in light of recent efforts from UK legislators to ban scalping, which gives us not only only a rare look inside the scalper mindset, but also a look into how they operate.

Scalping has been a thorn in the side of anyone looking to buy consumer tech throughout 2020 and into 2021, from the RTX 3000 series to Ryzen 5000 chips to the Playstation 5. The problem’s only gotten worse as the pandemic has closed down brick and mortar stores and forced shoppers to a purely online ecosystem, where they have to contend with bots that can buy faster than any person. We’ve spoken with cybersecurity experts before about the problems scalping poses for consumers and the threat it poses to dollar value in the larger economy, but scalpers themselves have a simple retort: “What makes us so different from Walmart?”

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  • hehehahaho
    i don't think scalpers are any different than doctor Seuss's Grinch. i hate them and wish they would just stop.
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  • Endymio
    Glad to see the idiot brigade has chimed in with this article. No, scalpers are not "heroes", but they do provide a valuable service for consumers. But emotions trump logic in modern-day society.

    In a free market economy, scalping can only exist in one case, and one case only -- when prices are being held artificially low. This usually happens when the government interferes in some way -- today, though, it's happening because companies like Sony, Microsoft, and NVidia are afraid of being accused of "profiteering" from the pandemic. So they continue to hold prices below their proper level, with many people willing to pay two or three times as much for a product as they're charging. What do they think is going to happen?

    The "anti-scalping" laws, regulations, and website-security checks being proposed to stop it are even more hilarious. Scalping was endemic in the former Soviet Union, and they couldn't stop it with sentences of hard labor in Siberian gulags. You think any of these measures will be more successful?

    Raise prices, or increase supply. Nothing else will work. Period.
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  • Kamen Rider Blade
    Endymio said:
    Raise prices, or increase supply. Nothing else will work. Period.
    Other methods will work, they just won't like what happens to them.
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  • USAFRet
    Endymio said:
    it's happening because companies like Sony, Microsoft, and NVidia are afraid of being accused of "profiteering" from the pandemic.
    Scalping of devices like this happened long before this pandemic.

    https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/ps4-sold-out-everywhere-and-scalpers-making-a-killing.194638/https://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/319402-the-official-ps4-xbox-one-ebayscalping-thread/
    https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2006/12/6406/
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  • spongiemaster
    Admin said:
    PS5 Scalpers Explain How They Can Sleep at Night : Read more
    On a bed of money? Probably not that hard.
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  • Heat_Fan89
    USAFRet said:
    Scalping of devices like this happened long before this pandemic.
    Agreed. I remember the Playstation 2 was being scalped at launch and selling several times more than MSRP and that was 20 yrs ago. It’s become more of a problem because more people are at home and have more idle time on their hands. So it becomes a matter of patience.
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  • Endymio
    USAFRet said:
    Scalping of devices like this happened long before this pandemic.
    Sure, on initial launch of a hotly-anticipated product-- especially when it's timed to drop just before Christmas. (as in your links)

    But that only lasts a month ... it's not the long-term phenomena we're seeing now. And again, it's an intentional act by the manufacturer to set a price they know is significantly below what people will be willing to pay.
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  • CerianK
    In my e-mail last night: "You weren’t selected in the Newegg Shuffle". No surprise there.
    Now I will just have to suffer with a 3700X, and not enjoy 5950X goodness.
    I am not sure how I am going to sleep at night.
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  • USAFRet
    "timed to drop just before Christmas"
    As in....mid september 2020, just before the run up to the magical Black Friday.
    Add in Coronoa....

    "Intentional act"? So you're saying they should have priced it 1.5 -2x more than it was?
    How would that help?
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  • Endymio
    USAFRet said:
    "Intentional act"? So you're saying they should have priced it 1.5 -2x more than it was?
    How would that help?
    It would help in the manner that all floating prices help -- they equalize supply with demand, ensuring that everyone who wishes to buy a product, can. No shortages, no oversupply. Econ 101.

    And no, I didn't say that a price increase of "1.5 -2x" would be necessary. Though scalpers are charging that much, they do so on a small fraction of the total supply, and they have additional overhead costs as well. If the manufacturer themselves raised prices, I doubt more than a 25-30% increase would be required.
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