After we published a story about my T-Mobile home Internet service dying with customer service unable to fix the problem, I got a lot of messages from readers with similar experiences. Three T-Mobile employees (two former and one current) who handled / handle home Internet support calls also reached out, claiming that the company uses canned excuses like “we’re upgrading the tower” in order to get customers off the phone and pad their stats.
Update (9/2/2022): This article has been updated to reflect new, corroborating information from two new anonymous sources: one current and one additional former T-Mobile Home Internet employee. Both reached out to us after initial publication.
All of our T-Mobile sources asked to remain anonymous but provided proof of current or recent former employment at the company. In one former employee's most recent position, he worked in engineering, which he said is the last level of escalation for problems with the home internet service. There, he claims, he was frequently unable to solve customers’ problems but was encouraged to use an “it’s the tower” explanation so he could keep calls to under ten minutes. He said that service reps are penalized if calls run longer than 600 seconds or customers call back about the same problem within a week.
According to all of the sources we spoke to the company also penalizes support reps if a customer calls back with the same problem within a certain number of days (one former rep said 7 days and but the current employee and other former employee said 3 days). Therefore, they are incentivized to tell you something that will keep you from calling again for that time period.
"We had a metric called IOCR/FCR - our bonus was heavily weighted around not having the customer call back for 3 days when I was there," our second former employee source said. "We were coached into a number of ways to confuse or lie to the customer to prevent them from calling back."
In my case, after spending several minutes on the phone with support doing everything from power cycling to removing and replacing the SIM card, I was put on hold while my rep said he would “do a few things” to fix the problem. He then returned and told me that my local cell tower was being upgraded and that I shouldn’t expect to have service for 48 hours, at which point I cancelled my service. Though I was on the phone for nearly 20 minutes, it still felt like the company was trying to give me an excuse, because they couldn’t actually help me.
"In regards to the particular error code you were getting [All PDN IP Connection Failure], and the lack of response from T-Mobile as to the specifics of that error, the answer is quite simple; they don't know," our first former employee source said . "I could tell you stories all day long about calls from customers with issues on their home internet service that never got solved, because no one in any of those departments, no matter how high up the chain we went, had any idea how to fix the problem."
According to our first former employee source, T-Mobile customer service reps hope that a hard reset of the 5G Gateway does the trick if a customer calls in with a problem. The company will often send replacement hardware to appease customers if that doesn't work. But as we've heard from customers on T-Mobile's forums and Reddit, even this isn't a surefire way to fix connectivity issues.
"If that doesn't fix it, they have no clue where to go from there, and you are typically out of luck at that point," he explained. "The 'tower is being upgraded' response is a canned response that is given when they have no other answer for what is happening."
The former employee said that, if the tower near me were really being upgraded, my rep would have told me right away. This is because customer support reps have multiple screens in front of them and can pull up a real-time map of the service area tied to your address. So if there were a tower outage or upgrade in process, the support rep would present that information to the customer within the first minute or two of the call.
According to our second former employee source, support reps would do what they could to find a plausible tower excuse that wasn't a complete lie. Instead, they'd zoom out on their computer maps until they found a tower that was having issues.
"If you report slow service or no service, I would query your address and zoom out on the coverage map until I could see a tower that had any work being done on it (Sometimes, we might zoom out 25-50, 100, or even 200+ miles to force another tower to populate)," our second former employee source said. "I would then tell you, 'It looks like work is being done in your area, please allow up to 72 hours for the issue to resolve' to effectively end the call, preventing you from calling back within 3 days. People who constantly called back dinged the rep's stats."
We reached out to T-Mobile for comment on our source’s accusation that the company’s support reps are under pressure to get customers off the phone (and therefore are incentivized to mislead them). The initial statement we got back didn’t really address the issue:
"We frequently make improvements to our 5G network to support services like Home Internet. On some occasions, that can cause short interruptions in our service. While extended issues are uncommon and typically last less than 12 hours, we encourage Home Internet customers to reach out to our award-winning customer care team for support in these cases."
However, after we published this article, the company sent a more direct response, saying:
"Our care model is designed to put the customer first, which means resolving issues as quickly as possible with the best information at hand. As is the standard in our industry and others, we prioritize NPS to measure our customers’ experiences with us, and we also rely on efficiency metrics to continually improve how we’re delivering the experience."
Both the current T-Mobile employee and the first former employee attributed the issues T-Mobile Home Internet customers are encountering to a lack of foresight into the demands and rigors of relying on cellular data for home internet service.
"It usually comes down to the same thing, lack of coverage. What most of us feel is that T-Mobile is in a rush to get as many customers as possible on HINT w/o considering the lack of bandwidth locally," the current employee said. "Now, they're offering HINT in places that technically had the max amount of users (per local capacity), which causes us to think those customer complaints are about to get much worse. They call it Home Internet Lite."
Our first former employee source agreed.
"The company simply did not take the time to become subject matter experts in the industry, and did not properly parse out the details of potential issues they would run into, before launching headfirst into the home internet world,” he said. “They just wanted to be part of the game, and have that extra perk to offer customers, and they wanted to be able to say they were the first to offer 'nationwide 5G Home Internet.'"
Other readers reached out to me, including Chris, who wrote about the All PDN IP Connection Failure error message I received, theorizing that the company may not have enough capacity on the newer towers that support the home Internet service.
“I was told that it has a lot to do with towers that still exist in the wild that aren't capable of handling connections for multiple reasons. There are still Sprint towers that need to be fully integrated, and older towers that just don't support enough connections to be reliable. All of this upgrading happens with little-to-no notice because they don't think it's necessary when there are towers nearby that should be a good fallback. Not so true for the home internet users!
It's worth considering that the router connects with different parameters than would a cellphone. A cellphone crawls the network seamlessly changing from "cell" to "cell" that is covered by whichever tower. The internet service requests a connection in a bit of a different way, not expecting to be on the move but indeed expecting to use more bandwidth.
When there are multiple towers nearby and not all of them are fully compatible with the home internet service, you're likely not going to get far enough to be assigned an IP address. If for some reason it connects to an older Sprint tower, or a tower that's at limit for user capacity, there will be issues. Your device will ask the PDN for access and get denied. An incompatible tower may not be configured for the requests made by your device. A perfectly good T-Mobile tower may already be at capacity and so your device sits in queue hoping for a connection. It might not try indefinitely and so it becomes necessary to power cycle it.”
I asked our T-Mobile source about this possibility, and he said it could be a factor in some customers losing connectivity suddenly.
Another reader, Stanton, reached out to tell me about his problems. He was also told about tower upgrades in-process and had no trouble with T-Mobile phone service in the same location:
"So I got T-Mobile home internet back during the pilot days. I've ran into the same errors as you. I've been through 5 to 6 gateways of theirs. They have claimed tower upgrade for over 6 months. My area is nothing but 5g and 5guc towers. My iPhone as well doesn't have issues with connectivity in these areas.
I've been waiting over 6 months for them to resolve this issue. Eventually I told them to pause my internet so I don't pay them for crap I'm not using. My issue is my location doesn't have access to fancy spectrum and such. Our best landline deals are cable which wants almost $200 a month for what T-Mobile offers or AT&T which claims the fastest they can provide is 18mbps."
Gary actually had his issues solved after T-Mobile sent him a new, upgraded 5G Gateway:
"I, too, had complete failure of my silver CYLINDRICAL gateway. They offered me a newer version (square black gateway) and my problem went away. I am surprised they did not offer it to you. Yes, they went through the whole litany of possible causes... tower upgrade, reboots, move location of gateway, etc. When they offered to replace the gateway with a newer version, I jumped on it. It has been working fine now for three months."
Interestingly, Carl contacted me to say that he signed up for T-Mobile Home Internet only to have horrible reception at his location. The company’s explanation: The service was not actually available in his area and they never should have sold it to him.
"Reading your article about your T-Mobile Gateway experience brought up my own horrible experience as a first time T-Mobile cell and home internet experience. Long story short, it never worked very well at all from the beginning. Barely had two bars. Constantly getting tech support. Was shipped three additional units to 'try' by tech support over 90 days. Problem was, I wasn't supposed to have been sold home internet. She confirmed my address and informed me that the 'service was NOT available in my area.' I shouldn't have been sold the unit to begin with."
Washdc, a commenter on my prior article, wrote:
"This could have been written by me... over 10 hours on the phone with customer service and their "tech team," three different devices, 48-hour tower outage (I live about one mile away from two towers) and absolutely no consistent coverage. I will give this inconsistency a few more days, hoping that after three weeks the system "settles down," and then crawl back to fios. Good bye to all the savings, hello to working internet. Fios must be so proud."
To be fair, not every person we heard from has had problems with T-Mobile. Anshel Sag, an analyst who tracks 5G with Moor Strategies and Insight, said that he’s not aware of problems with T-Mobile’s home Internet service and that he uses it successfully himself.
“In my experience with the service, it operated at roughly the same speed and reliability as my smartphone,” he said.
Sag said he spoke to his contacts at T-Mobile, who said that mine sounds like an isolated incident.
As the feedback I’ve gotten shows, clearly I’m not the only one who has experienced serious problems with T-Mobile Home Internet. However, it’s impossible to know what percentage of users actually had to cancel their service due to unresolved issues. Of course, people online are quicker to point out problems with a product or service than they are when they have good experiences. Those with good experiences don't usually have a reason to speak out.
When the T-Mobile Home Internet services works, it’s fantastic. The 500+ Mbps downloads and 70+ Mbps uploads I got during my two successful weeks with the service were incredible and far superior to what my previous provider, Spectrum, was able to provide. However, the prospect of unreliable service was enough to scare me away, sending me back into the open arms of Spectrum.
Regardless, for those that have experienced extended outages, been fed untruths by T-Mobile employees, or have been sent multiple hardware replacements in vain in hopes of solving the issues, the positive potential doesn’t matter.
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My guess would be that they oversold their network and it is forcing people off to prevent degradation in quality. It could also be a new building that is now blocking the signal between you and the tower. Trees growing can be a problem as well.Reply
Telus in canada isnt any better i have shaw 1.5gbps internet with shaw communications in lethbridge...i thought i was sold on telus they said they had faster speeds so i was ready to switch hoping to get a new tv with em ...so i call back to double check and they say oh in ur city we only have like 25mbps internet im like pfff what a joke i have 5 people in the house with tablets computers and phones ....that wouldnt even come close to shaw.....so thats how these places get u....get a free tv when u sign up for trash service lol....if ur in canada u want SHAWReply
"he had been with the company for several years before leaving this past spring. In his most recent position, he worked in engineering"Reply
I think I can narrow it down to who it was if I worked there. So much for being anonymous.
"He said that service reps are penalized if calls run longer than 600 seconds or customers call back about the same problem within a week."
Someone should penalized T-Mobile for crappy service.
Sure, you can narrow it down, but I'm sure T-Mobile has had dozens of engineers leave in the past several months. It's a big company! Even if it were only a handful, it's still plausible deniability. The source can't be punished by his former employer since he's already gone, and T-Mobile has little to no power to prove without a doubt who the source is.peachpuff said:I think I can narrow it down to who it was if I worked there. So much for being anonymous.
I was also sold the T-Mobile internet service, only to have constant problems with it. After I was on my third Gateway device (the round grey one), I was suddenly told that the service wasn't available at my address yet, and it should have never been offered to me.Reply
Now I am thinking that this is just another way that T-Mobile trys to excuse their poor internet service.
I had and I’m still having the same issues with t-mobile. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it have more than two bars and my location reads like I’m in a totally different state than I’m in. I had my tower replaced, but I won’t try that again because I ended up being charged over $500 for not returning my old tower, but I had returned it and had tracking information to prove it. They never admitted that the charge was wrong because then said I had two towers to return even though the second tower was the one I was using. In the end, I’m out $500 and I still have such a weak signal that unless you are in the same room as the tower, you’ll never have a wife signal. They also quoted me $10 less than what I’ve been charged for over a year.Reply
"Former Employee: Every Company Ever Misleads Customers"
Admin said:Says company’s support reps incentivized to give customers false excuses to get them off the phone faster.
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Most every large company has metrics to hit for their phone calls to "customer care" . It's not just a T-mobile thing. Shorter calls = more customers helped per rep. Plus side is T-Mobile does still use US based Call Centers & Employees for most of their care calls.. I'm sure they'll get their internet issues worked out. Guessing this article will help elevate it to a NEED TO FIX NOW priority
And this is news how ?Reply
I've personally heard from over 50 former cell company employees in the past few years that have all told me similar, if not exactly the same, stories about their shady crap and horrible service when it comes to internet services....
That's the primary reason I have and always will stay away from them..... personally I feel should be illegal for wireless providers to offer any kind of internet service & vice versa....
The catch, at least where I live, is that in order to get home internet service from TMOz/Vorizem/ATwiT/Xflakinity, you have to also have your cell service with them, so they can gouge you on both ends.......
I have my internet from 1 local company & my cell service from a nvmo, which together costs me way less than the cell companies are charging for just one of their services.......
Any recommendation for Vancouver area (like Port Moody)demonicus said:Telus in canada isnt any better i have shaw 1.5gbps internet with shaw communications in lethbridge...i thought i was sold on telus they said they had faster speeds so i was ready to switch hoping to get a new tv with em ...so i call back to double check and they say oh in ur city we only have like 25mbps internet im like pfff what a joke i have 5 people in the house with tablets computers and phones ....that wouldnt even come close to shaw.....so thats how these places get u....get a free tv when u sign up for trash service lol....if ur in canada u want SHAW