Linus Torvalds slams supporters of delisted Russian driver maintainers as ‘trolls’
Promises fake ‘grassroots’ campaigns ‘won’t change anything.’

Linus Torvalds has dismissed those concerned about the recent dismissal of Russian kernel driver maintainers as trolls. The notoriously candid software engineer was reacting to complaints about the dismissal of a dozen maintainers who, it emerged, all had some kind of Russian connection. Phoronix notes that Torvalds, the creator and lead developer of the Linux kernel, added his potentially incendiary comments to a Linux mailing list thread.
On Monday, Linux devotees started to become aware that a patch merged into the Linux 6.12-rc4 kernel had removed the maintainers of the Acer Aspire 1 EC driver, Cirrus Logic CLPS711X Arm architecture, Baikal-T1 PVT hardware monitor driver, Libata PATA drivers, Libata SATA AHCI Synopsys DWC controller drivers... and several more patches.
While mention of the maintainers had vanished, the drivers remained for now. It didn’t take long to discover a commonality among the removed maintainers—some association with Russia. Most of them had a .ru email address.
It was presumed that there must be a war in Ukraine linked to the dozen maintainers being dropped, and indeed, Linus Torvalds confirmed this in no uncertain terms on Wednesday.
Before discussing the reasons behind the maintainer delistings, Torvalds seemed keen to blast “lots of Russian trolls out,” whom he claimed to be obvious random bots who were attempting to fake a grassroots campaign to reverse the maintainer cull.
Torvalds continued, with his rage dial turned to 11, explaining the meaning of sanctions to those that weren’t clear. “If you haven't heard of Russian sanctions yet, you should try to read the news someday. And by "news," I don't mean Russian state-sponsored spam.”
Towards the end of his tirade, the Linux godfather reminded mailing list readers that he is a proud Fin before rhetorically asking, “Did you think I'd be *supporting* Russian aggression?” Then he told readers his critics didn’t need to brush up on their history and real news. It seems fair to assume that Torvald’s decision regarding Russian contributors will not be reversed soon.
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Earlier this week, we reported that Torvalds was "fed up with buggy hardware and completely theoretical attacks." We understand that particular outburst was prompted by some proposed code for linear address masking (LAM) for Intel Arrow Lake and Lunar Lake CPUs.
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bit_user
You're being needlessly inflammatory. He didn't state or imply there were no legitimate concerns, but that's not to say all the objections are in good faith. Before you demonize Linus, you might want to look at some of the disinformation-laden comments he's talking about. I think he was reacting to people stirring up a big public backlash, which is utterly pointless if you understand why they got removed.The article said:Linus Torvalds has dismissed those concerned about the recent dismissal of Russian kernel driver maintainers as trolls.
The reason the maintainers got de-listed was in order to comply with sanctions, as advised by their (presumably the Linux Foundation's) lawyers. This wasn't a personal grudge on the part of Linus or any other core maintainers, as far as I can tell.
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nrdwka
The linked post describe well what linux doundation hope what that move will satisfy US and no pursuits will be charged against Linux foundation for not respecting US sanctio. And actually they are "separating" on good termsbit_user said:You're being needlessly inflammatory. He didn't state or imply there were no legitimate concerns, but that's not to say all the objections are in good faith. Before you demonize Linus, you might want to look at some of the disinformation-laden comments he's talking about. I think he was reacting to people stirring up a big public backlash, which is utterly pointless if you understand why they got removed.
The reason the maintainers got de-listed was in order to comply with sanctions, as advised by their (presumably the Linux Foundation's) lawyers. This wasn't a personal grudge on the part of Linus or any other core maintainers, as far as I can tell.
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-Compliance-Requirements
On other hand the message from Linus feels like personal grudge against Russian maintainers => sometime it is good to do not let tech peoples to make a statement on an inflammatory subject without agreement with other paries involved (aka colleague s from Linux foundation) -
AndrewJacksonZA So, uh, are their previous contributions removed along with their names? Even though people from "approved" countries will have to redo the work?Reply
You know, just to be safe. -
AndrewJacksonZA
I understand your post and have read the article. I disagree with your last sentence though, Linus' wording made it sound very personal.bit_user said:The reason the maintainers got de-listed was in order to comply with sanctions, as advised by their (presumably the Linux Foundation's) lawyers. This wasn't a personal grudge on the part of Linus or any other core maintainers, as far as I can tell.
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-Compliance-Requirements -
NinoPino
To be removed are only the names from the MAINTEINERS file. At least for the moment patches will be accepted.AndrewJacksonZA said:So, uh, are their previous contributions removed along with their names? Even though people from "approved" countries will have to redo the work?
You know, just to be safe. -
NinoPino Linus could have simply exposed the kernel "compliance requirements", explaining the situation without doing such aggressive declarations.Reply
And two phrases sound very ugly. The "Did you think I'd be *supporting* Russian aggression?” that indirectly imply that Linus think that accepting Russians contribution to the Linux kernel means support Russia military operation, that is obviously a foolish thinking. I hope Linus do not think this for real.
The other ugly affirmation was the "patriotic" Finnish origin that is absolutely of bad taste in this context. This personal and unhappy statement put a very bad light on Linus professionalism as "Kernel impartial coordinator". -
bit_user
I disagree. I think he was reacting to the backlash that occurred, after the maintainers were removed. The removed maintainers are a small group of people that he could deal with individually, if need be. There's no reason for him to make such public statements, if it mainly was being addressed to them.nrdwka said:On other hand the message from Linus feels like personal grudge against Russian maintainers