Notoriously litigious Nintendo sues maker of Yuzu Switch emulator, alleges it facilitates ‘piracy at a colossal scale’

Nintendo's Breath of The Wild running with graphics mods (including ReShade) on an RTX 4090. Turns out Nintendo's not a fan.
Nintendo's Breath of The Wild running with graphics mods (including ReShade) on an RTX 4090. Turns out Nintendo's not a fan. (Image credit: Digital Dreams on YouTube)

Nintendo is suing the developers of the Yuzu Switch emulator, citing the fact that Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom was leaked prior to release and downloaded one million times, according to a legal document shared by Stephen Totilo on Twitter. The lawsuit lists "Tropic Haze LLC," the company who operates Yuzu and its Patreon page.

While Nintendo points toward the one million number as some kind of irreparable harm, it's important to note that Tears of the Kingdom still sold 20.28 million copies by the end of 2023. In the same span of time (about 7 months after launch), Breath of the Wild sold about 16 million copies on Switch. As always, equating every pirated download to a lost sale is something of a logical fallacy.

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  • blacknemesist
    The reason Nintendo took so long to take action is because they themselves have no idea what IPs they actually own since unless it says Mario it probably ain't theirs
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  • TerryLaze
    Admin said:
    In a typical Nintendo move against console emulation, Nintendo is suing the makers of the Yuzu Switch emulator — seeking damages and shutdown.

    Notoriously litigious Nintendo sues maker of Yuzu Switch emulator, alleges it facilitates ‘piracy at a colossal scale’ : Read more
    Just to clarify, nintendo does not move against emulators here, Yuzu is decrypting the games in real time which is basically real time cracking of the game.
    At least that's what nintendo tries to push through here.
    Yuzu unlawfully circumvents the technological measures on Nintendo Switch games and allows for the play of encrypted Nintendo Switch games on devices other than a Nintendo Switch. Yuzu does this by executing code necessary to defeat Nintendo’s many technological measures associated with its games, including code that decrypts the Nintendo Switch video game files immediately before and during runtime using an illegally-obtained
    copy of prod.keys
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  • YouFilthyHippo
    Nintendo is not going to win. Making copies of digital files that you already rightfully own is legal. Example: I go buy a music CD, pay for it with clean, legitimate money at a retail store, take home the CD clone the CD to blank CD, and store the original in a drawer, and just listen to the copy to keep the original in perfect condition. Making copies of prod.keys or dumping games is not illegal. You are just copying something you already own anyway. It's distributing them out that is illegal, something Yuzu devs have never done.

    Nintendo is suing the wrong people. Yuzu does not rip the prod.keys and does not include it, nor firmware, nor games in Yuzu. Its the end user that does. Yuzu in and of itself, released AS IS..... is completely 100% legal from the first line of code to the very last. Nintendo has done this before. It failed each and every time. This one will be no different.

    They are going after Yuzu because suing 30,000,000 end users and 30,000 ROM sites isn't viable. One problem: Yuzu hasn't done anything wrong. At some point, you have to think: Yuzu devs have done their homework. They have their own lawyers who in advance will make sure that Yuzu doesn't do anything wrong. If Yuzu was legally in the wrong, a lawyer for Yuzu dev would have told them by now.

    Yuzu devs have been prepared for this for all of time. They have always known this can happen. They are prepared. They will know what to do. They will be fine
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  • TerryLaze
    YouFilthyHippo said:
    Making copies of prod.keys or dumping games is not illegal. You are just copying something you already own anyway. It's distributing them out that is illegal, something Yuzu devs have never done.
    While you are allowed to make a backup of your game, firmware/os files do not belong to you, you do not own them or have any right to copy them or to use them out of context.
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  • YouFilthyHippo
    TerryLaze said:
    While you are allowed to make a backup of your game, firmware/os files do not belong to you, you do not own them or have any right to copy them or to use them out of context.
    When you purchase the Nintendo Switch, you purchase the whole thing, not just 10%, not half, not 90%, not 99.9999999%. You purchase the whole thing. The firmware/os files are part of the Nintendo switch, and it is sold as one unit, and one in the same. Therefore, it does belong to you. Yes, you do have the right to copy them for your own personal use.

    However, that is irrelevant anyway. Yuzu devs did neither one of those things. It is Yuzu that is being sued. Yuzu does not include OS/Firmware. So it's a moot point
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  • JTWrenn
    All this bs about rights of users after buying the software is really the harsh part of this whole thing. Nintendo is claiming a whole lot of rights to restrict usage for actual owners along with the piracy issue. I can't backup my software and play it on a steamdeck? I know a lot of people who did just that for their fanboy love of Zelda.

    In the end if buying isn't owning, is piracy really theft?

    This is getting ridiculous.
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  • mhmarefat
    TerryLaze said:
    While you are allowed to make a backup of your game, firmware/os files do not belong to you, you do not own them or have any right to copy them or to use them out of context.
    wait, who are you to tell me what I can or can't do with something I own? by what logic I do not "own" what I have purchased? Is taking a hammer and use it to rip my Nintendo to pieces out of context?
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  • TheyCallMeContra
    YouFilthyHippo said:
    Nintendo is not going to win. Making copies of digital files that you already rightfully own is legal. Example: I go buy a music CD, pay for it with clean, legitimate money at a retail store, take home the CD clone the CD to blank CD, and store the original in a drawer, and just listen to the copy to keep the original in perfect condition. Making copies of prod.keys or dumping games is not illegal. You are just copying something you already own anyway. It's distributing them out that is illegal, something Yuzu devs have never done.

    Nintendo is suing the wrong people. Yuzu does not rip the prod.keys and does not include it, nor firmware, nor games in Yuzu. Its the end user that does. Yuzu in and of itself, released AS IS..... is completely 100% legal from the first line of code to the very last. Nintendo has done this before. It failed each and every time. This one will be no different.

    They are going after Yuzu because suing 30,000,000 end users and 30,000 ROM sites isn't viable. One problem: Yuzu hasn't done anything wrong. At some point, you have to think: Yuzu devs have done their homework. They have their own lawyers who in advance will make sure that Yuzu doesn't do anything wrong. If Yuzu was legally in the wrong, a lawyer for Yuzu dev would have told them by now.

    Yuzu devs have been prepared for this for all of time. They have always known this can happen. They are prepared. They will know what to do. They will be fine

    I certainly hope Yuzu is as well-prepared as you seem to think they are.
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  • USAFRet
    mhmarefat said:
    wait, who are you to tell me what I can or can't do with something I own? by what logic I do not "own" what I have purchased? Is taking a hammer and use it to rip my Nintendo to pieces out of context?
    "owning" and "license to use" are two completely different things.

    Presumably you actually read the "license agreement" of the software?
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  • Notton
    USAFRet said:
    "owning" and "license to use" are two completely different things.

    Presumably you actually read the "license agreement" of the software?
    Quite a few of those license agreements are non-enforceable, depending on jurisdiction.
    AKA, Contractual Validity.
    For example, if there is a strict law for privacy rights in X jurisdiction, just because the contract says they can sell your private data, doesn't mean they can.
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