Google's Plans to Leave China are 99.9% Certain
Google's plans to pull out of China are said to be nearly 100 percent certain.
Not too long ago, Google threatened to shut down Google.cn and walk out of China. The threat was a response to a mid-December hack originating from China as well as an anti-censorship protest. On Friday, the Chinese Minister of Industry and Information Technology, Li Yizhong, told reporters in no uncertain terms, "If you don't respect Chinese laws, you are unfriendly and irresponsible, and the consequences will be on you."
Today, the Financial Times reports that the Google's decision to leave China is all but made. Citing a source familiar with the situation. FT reports that censorship talks with the Chinese government have reached an apparent impasse. The source went on to say that while a decision could be made very soon, the company is likely to take some time to follow through with the plan as it seeks an orderly closure and takes steps to protect local employees from retaliation by the authorities.
However, Google may not leave China altogether. Though the company could be closing Google.cn, the search giant is looking at other solutions to the problem so it can maintain a presence in the country. Among these is the possibility of handing over a majority stake or even the entire business to a local player.
Read the full story on Financial Times.
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I would.
+100 respect for google
I know this is not relevant, apologize for that. How do I prevent finance.google.com from going to Chinese site?
I don't recommend that... China with steal as much technology and patented ideas as possible.
I wish America would boycott Chinese made products altogether. It's the only way they will get the point. Freedom + China = FAIL.
I know this is not relevant, apologize for that. How do I prevent finance.google.com from going to Chinese site?
Google it!
I wish America would boycott Chinese made products altogether. It's the only way they will get the point. Freedom + China = FAIL.
I wish we could but do you realize how much crap us American use that is "Made In China"? I'm sick of seeing virtually everything say that on it.
the problem is though, once we stop buying chinese goods, they stop buying our goods..so we must ask ourselves if we can really accept those consequences..
As much as China is seen as evil, and the US promoting human rights across the globe, the country that kills most innocent people was and still is....America. Who are you to judge other countries then.
I wish we could but do you realize how much crap us American use that is "Made In China"? I'm sick of seeing virtually everything say that on it.
Never forget the drywall that was made there that rots every thing with metal in it including electronics. In China they can make nails cheaper than it does to make wire in Indonesia.
I wish America would boycott Chinese made products altogether. It's the only way they will get the point. Freedom + China = FAIL.
Yea that would pretty much be an act of war. Here's how it would happen. We stop buying Chinese goods. They dump our bonds. We can't pay. We our forced to go to war. Doesn't really matter who fires the first shot.
With free and unbiased reporting like this, no wonder the above posters are fervently jingoistic. The same yellow press gets this country in two wars and we are looking for a fifth (after Iran and N. Korea later this year)
As much as China is seen as evil, and the US promoting human rights across the globe, the country that kills most innocent people was and still is....America. Who are you to judge other countries then.
Show me the numbers.
I'm sure I'll get thumbed down for having an unpopular opinion, but it's not like google had any choice here. They were violating the law and china was going to shut them down and perhaps prosecute.
the problem is though, once we stop buying chinese goods, they stop buying our goods..so we must ask ourselves if we can really accept those consequences..
The American companies that would begin (or increase volume) of product manufacture would buy the materials that china wasn't buying. It would improve unemployment, and the economy. Simultaneously it would reduce shipping and greenhouse gas emissions. Walmart might not like being forced to pay fair wages to factory workers and Apple wouldn't like not being able to have cheap child labor, but for the country as a whole it would be a good thing in my opinion.
Good for Google morals over money.
I'm going to have to stop ever using Bing now.
I think Google should apply the same censorship it does to China to the rest of the world for one day, just so we can see what they are missing... this all seems like a good plot for the next james bond movie.. the next world war will be fought by a private organization who pissed off the wrong country. Don't forget China could destroy the american/world economy just by asking for what's owed to them.
the problem is though, once we stop buying chinese goods, they stop buying our goods..so we must ask ourselves if we can really accept those consequences..
Have you seen the trade deficit with China, that not an issue at all. This is a huge loss for Google that is the fastest growing market in the world. Google can't balance its books without growth right now. They have other areas for sure, but this will be a huge negative on them for years to come.
This wasn’t a noble act either; they have been shut out for the most part. First the Chinese demonstrate the weakness of their cloud and then kick them out when they complained, love it.
Didn't these fools know?
Only NIXON could go to China!!
Google should DDoS the main Chinese infrastructure into submission! Just think about their server farms as a gargantuan botnet.
Boycotting doesnt work, just tax them to starvation.
Google should pull out of China, even with their R&D dept...leave nothing to the chinese gov't
This is an interesting turn of events. I would think that Google's decision is based on China's veiled threats. There is a distinct possibility China would follow through.
Show me the numbers.
One does not need to be a mathematical genius or a rocket scientist to realize how many people are killed by two atomic bombs, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and God knows what else. "Show me the numbers"...wtf. The truth hurts, even if you refuse to acknowledge it.
I wish we could but do you realize how much crap us American use that is "Made In China"? I'm sick of seeing virtually everything say that on it.
Oh I know! I agree with someone else that posted something on here. Time to start manufacturing our own stuff for us. Employment would improve and we wouldn't be relient on other countries. You can't escape the global market but you can be selective who you do business with.
As much as China is seen as evil, and the US promoting human rights across the globe, the country that kills most innocent people was and still is....America. Who are you to judge other countries then.
America? Are you saying that America kills thousands of innocent people a day? Where? Because the ones I was shooting at shot at me first. Men, women and children.
Sounds like BS to me, lets see some numbers to backup your claim.
One does not need to be a mathematical genius or a rocket scientist to realize how many people are killed by two atomic bombs, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and God knows what else. "Show me the numbers"...wtf. The truth hurts, even if you refuse to acknowledge it.
Tell me how many people did we save by dropping those two bombs. On top of that if we would have been in Iraq before saddam gassed the kurds maybe we could have saved a few more people. So tell me those wars didnt need to happens and I can think of a few million souls that would tell you otherwise...
If China really wants to keep the rest of the world out, I'd love to see the rest of the world keep China out!
Just my $0.02...
One does not need to be a mathematical genius or a rocket scientist to realize how many people are killed by two atomic bombs, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, and God knows what else. "Show me the numbers"...wtf. The truth hurts, even if you refuse to acknowledge it.
Ok, so if someone attacks america or one of its allies we are to just sit there and not fight back?
Lets take a deeper look at the truth since the truth does hurt.
Japan fired first shots at Pearl Harbor. We dropped two presents for them at Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Lesson leared by Japan.
North Vietnam invaded South Vietnam. We were asked to help fight. We did not just show up shooting the place up like a bunch of islamic terrorist.
Iraq 1, Iraq invaded Kuwait. Kuwait asked for help. Saddam's army got slapped around like a bitch.
Afghanistan, home to most islamic terrorist groups. Americans have been directly attacked by Islamic terrorists since the 70s. They should be thankful that we did not decide to invade earlier when they still had Russia's attention.
Iraq 2, maybe you don't remember but Saddam tried to have Bush Sr. killed while Jr. was in office. He failed, but an attack on the Presidential family is easily grounds for retaliation.
BTW, you want to know who killed the most innocents. I nominate Germany.
Millions of jews marched to their deaths for no other reason than being jewish. Let me guess though, you don't believe that happened.
Back to the subject guys, this thread has nothing to do with Hiroshima and it's past.
I'm sure I'll get thumbed down for having an unpopular opinion, but it's not like google had any choice here. They were violating the law and china was going to shut them down and perhaps prosecute.The American companies that would begin (or increase volume) of product manufacture would buy the materials that china wasn't buying. It would improve unemployment, and the economy. Simultaneously it would reduce shipping and greenhouse gas emissions. Walmart might not like being forced to pay fair wages to factory workers and Apple wouldn't like not being able to have cheap child labor, but for the country as a whole it would be a good thing in my opinion.
Sure, but that sort of thing takes time. You can't just move from a closed factory to a full production one in a day. It would take months, years, perhaps decades to replace what the US gets from China.
pei-chan the problem is. IT'S TRUE! I mean come on. I'm not gonna even argue if you don't think it is. As it's pointless.
At mkyam how about doing some research on the crap you spew. Better yet how about just keeping your mouth shut. Bringing up the atomic bomb? Really? They would've dropped it on us if they could've. It ended the war that was costing people their lifes on both sides.
Now back to the article google isn't doing any of this to get praise from us. Their simply doing it as a smart business decision. Nothing to do with humanity. Just cash like all other businesses.
[citation][nom]baddadisafag[/nom As a former USAF Officer I take great offence at someone saying American military kill innocent people. Granted there are times when innocent people are killed during war, but We do not kill innocent people intentionally. Anyone that does would face the harshest punishment possible under the unified code of military justice.[/citation]
So just because it's unintentional means that it's ok that innocent people died? I'm sorry, but I think that is a load of bs. People are people no matter where they are from and their lives matter. American lives are no more important than Iraqi's, Chinese, Mexican, etc. And the Atom bomb was definitely NOT justified! How can you say that killing millions of innocent people was justified?! Just because they were Japanese doesn't mean their lives don't count. America is probably the most violent nation in the world and say it's ok because it's in the name of "freedom." The U.S. was founded on violence(Revolutionary War, Westward expansionism, civil war, etc.) and it will mostly likely be destroyed in a very violent fashion. "if you live by the sword you will die by the sword"
I'm sure this will be voted down because I don't take a pro-American stance and because I feel that America is in the wrong *gasp*!