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Texas Plans Ban of Vista From Government PCs
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Earlier this week, the Texas state Senate gave preliminary approval to a policy that would forbid the installation of Windows Vista on government computers.
Everyone, including Microsoft, knows that Windows Vista isn’t the most appreciated of operating systems. Large businesses have chosen to stick with Windows XP for support issues, and some consumers shy away from Windows Vista based on performance and other things they have heard.
Even though Windows 7 is nearly upon us, the Texas state Senate gave preliminary approval to a budget that would include a policy to ban the use of Windows Vista on government computers.
ComputerWorld reports that Sen. Juan Hinojosa proposed the bill because "of the many reports of problems with Vista."
"We are not in any way, shape or form trying to pick on Microsoft, but the problems with this particular [operating] system are known nationwide," Hinojosa said. "And the XP operating system is working very well."
While the bill also outlines that agencies who have a use for Windows Vista would have to first get the written approval of the Legislative Budget Board.
Microsoft was predictably disappointed by the proposal. "We're surprised that the Texas Senate Finance Committee adopted a rider which, in effect, singles out a specific corporation and product for unequal treatment,” a spokeswoman wrote. “We hope as the budget continues to go through the process, this language will be removed."
Texas Department of Information Resources spokesman David Duncan said that the department’s 265 employees remain on Windows XP and Mac OS X, and might skip straight to Windows 7 at the next upgrade. "We're not holding off as a reaction to what Microsoft is producing," he said, adding that Windows 7 also fits better with the agency’s upgrade cycle.
This still another black mark on Windows Vista, but fortunately for Microsoft, Windows 7 is the next big thing.
Source : Tom's Hardware US
Many reports of problems... makes me wonder if they're talking about the number of problems found in general, or problems THEY had.
I'm thinking they could save money by hiring new IT.
I thought they were going to use linux
yeah, Im no big fan of Linux, but I do recognize that they work well on server platforms.
Indeed I´m using Vista64 for about 6 months and nothing has gone wrong till now. I´m pretty confident that they're trying to use outdated programs which doesn't work well with the new vista structure.
While I recognize the troubles a new os can bring to IT (just a huge pain in the butt for something that ultimately doesn't make a difference compared to xp for most common needs) it's probably going a bit far to make a rule banning the os
I often criticize Microsoft and Vista, but this is my job. I am IT person. The politicians are stepping over the line. This is really, really unacceptable. How the hell this is even possible in US? A month ago, we read about Cuba's Linux, but even the Cuban government is offering it as alternative, and is not banning the Windows. So I am wondering, is the US Socialism starts from Texas?!
What the hell ever happened to not choosing Vista? Is it that hard to ghost government machines or ? Seems like a very weird area to create laws about especially when they have an better product from exactly the same company. If anything they should come out saying that they aren't gonna use Vista because its an inferior product.
go texas!
Well this is going to help people choose Windows or OS X. I wish they could just have good IT's because vista is fine. OS X is a piece of sht. I would never revert to switching to OS X
Next "Im a PC" advert?
Kekeke
That is freaking ridiculous. I love how people knock Vista without even trying it. Sure, it isn't the greatest OS ever, but it isn't that bad at all. It's much more secure than XP or OSX, even without the UAC (which is really annoying, but not incredibly so). read the recent Tom's interview with the pwn2own guy.
And compare the Newegg reviews of vista to the general public's.
I agree with those that aren't "haters" of Vista simply due to rumors and biased media. I've used Vista since it was a beta. I have had a lot fewer problems with it than I had with XP. I run Ultimate x64 and really like it. While waiting until Windows 7 only seems logical due to the timeline until release, if Texas is using old programs that dont run well on Vista, will they run any better on 7?
This is funny.
"Texas Department of Information Resources spokesman David Duncan said that the department’s 265 employees remain on Windows XP and Mac OS X, and might skip straight to Windows 7 at the next upgrade. "
Once again people bashing Vista without trying it. I run the IT dept. at our company and all new machines have Vista business. We are slowly replacing the slower macs with Vista machines. Our last IT guy had the whole company on Macs. I have zero problems (other than dumb user error) with running 16 macs along with 13 Vista PC's. Vista is more secure.
Is April fools over?
LOL at whoever made this decision.
hmmm, I have Vista on my 64-bit desktop and 32-bit laptop. Frankly, I have nothing to complain about. WTF? So, what's wrong with Vista, again? I didn't get the memo.
Vista out of the box is like OS X, pretty and it works fine. Once you start customizing it (sorry macs) with new hardware and software, that's when the problems start. I've been running Vista Enterprise 64-bit on three machines exclusively since the RTM came out, I've had to reinstall two of the once, not bad considering how much crap I play around with, uh, I mean test....
And it works great for gaming, almost no difference to XP once you slim it down to only what you need.
Will I ever install it at my company? Oh hell no! Users are dumb enough as it is with computers, Vista just makes them more agrevated after using XP for 8 years.
Server 2k8? That's another story, best bit of software to come out of microsoft to date, all but two of my servers (file and backup) are under 1GB of storage! VM's of course on VMware ESX. Core install all the way!!!!!
People, may I remind you that Texas is a state filled with bible believing creationist. Can't expect much from them to begin with.
Epic fail!
I have a feeling the ban may be a nice shot at the IT guys to not even ask. Running mixed networks is a pain. Cost is another. If they already have XP why change. Even if MS gave it to them at say 75$ thats 75$ by what a million computers?
That's not the point. The point is that they are banning vista. So if anyone needs a new machine,they have to unistall vista and buy a copy of Xp. Or worse.... spend even more money on a Mac.
Running mixed systems is not a big deal for an average IT guy.
^i doubt they would upgrade all of their computer, it would be more of a case by case scenario. This bill would just remove that option.
If you read the article a little more closely, it is just one senator proposing the bill.
It will never pass..... MS would probably sue the Texas Gov back to the stone age.
What a dumbass.
He would have more luck banning ugly people from working in gov.
Seems that someone already banned smart people.
I really hope that there was at least one texas legislator that stood up in their debates and asked "is there anyone here that has actually USED Vista that has a problem with it"?
For the people who live in Texas: Your tax dollars at work. Sure, the state may have problems with illegal border crossings, budgetary issues, potentially crippling water shortages... but this Vista thing. THIS is something that needs attention!
They could just switch to BSD or Linux. It's not like Texas really cares if state workers like their old programs or not. If switching can make them look good with the appearance of saving money, while passing the buck to someone else, then they will do it.
Windows = Made in India
Iäll guess there are about 10,000 people in India, hired by Microsoft, that are currently working on developing Windows XP, Vista, 7 etc.
Windows = Made in India
Iäll guess there are about 10,000 people in India, hired by Microsoft, that are currently working on developing Windows XP, Vista, 7 etc.
hehe, funny
"of the many reports of problems with Vista."
This is ridiculous. The decision to not use(or ban) an os, should fall on the shoulders of your IT personnel and not the random bullsh** you find on a google search.
Their IT staff should have complete control over what operating systems are being deployed on government owned computers. Operating systems should be researched and thoroughly tested before deployment.
This smacks of incompetence. There is no reason to pass a bill to ban the use of an operating system.
What a waste of tax payer money. Juan Hinojosa and IT personnel in charge of the Government owned computers should receive an early Christmas present, a nice pink slip.
I ran XP on a 2Ghz core2duo with 2GB ram, Win 98 on a P3 350Mhz with 256MB ram, and Windows Vista on a core2duo 3,2Ghz with 4GB ram (though in reality it's impossible but 6GB is needed for the 32bit version, and at least 8GB is needed for the 64bit version to function as fine, as the other operating systems); and all operating systems have about the same system response.
I don't think Windows 7 is any improvement over XP. System response, power saving, and productivity matter!
What good is a system running on a Core2Duo 2Ghz, with 4GB, with advanced powersaving settings, where the majority of the time the processor needs to run half the speed, over a WinXP OS with half the hardware requirements and power, and yet be as productive as the other?
The only who can benefit from Windows7 is gamers, and users who really find that visual appearance matters!
For me,the visual appearance is just a resource hog I'd want to get rid of as soon as possible.
Windows came from DOS to make basic operation faster, easier, more visible, and make life more productive.
A lot in Windows 7 does not support this ideology anymore!
I wished there would be an operating system out there that mimics WinXP with some basic upgrades (like DX11 compatibility, driver compatibility of newer devices, etc...)
Government in baseball, government in IT, government in healthcare... they need to just get the hell out of all this stuff and let us live our lives, per the Constitution.
I'm sick of power hungry politicians taking my hard earned money, time, and freedom.
I've had Vista for 7 months now and i hate it more every day!!!! SCREW YOU MICROSOFT I have some type of stupid vista related issues with installing games and patches so many times i can't begin to count. Vista is fast with good hardware q9550@3.2 but dam its by far the worst OS that i have ever used, from xp,98,3.1 as far as it stopping you from doing things you want to do and then not allowing things to run correctly that you already had to click allow to and just being a pain in the ass all around. At this point i wish i had a choice because i don't want to buy microsoft sigh.... but i'm not gona get stuck with an apple OS and no software
I often criticize Microsoft and Vista, but this is my job. I am IT person. The politicians are stepping over the line. This is really, really unacceptable. How the hell this is even possible in US? A month ago, we read about Cuba's Linux, but even the Cuban government is offering it as alternative, and is not banning the Windows. So I am wondering, is the US Socialism starts from Texas?!
I think you are reading it wrong. They are banning Vista from Government PC's, not users. TCO for Vista is HUGE unless you have good hardware. In times of crisis is better to save taxpayers money dont you think?
I think you are reading it wrong. They are banning Vista from Government PC's, not users. TCO for Vista is HUGE unless you have good hardware. In times of crisis is better to save taxpayers money dont you think?
I am all about saving money. Choosing OS is a technical decision and has to be done by System Administrators not the manager. The manager has to define clear business objective and mission and provide support to technical people to select the best solution. If Vista work great, use it. If Linux work even better it is free. What politicians have to demand is open standards free from patent extortion. For example requirement to use Open Document Format (ODF) instead of propriety formats that lock you in to only single business framework. That is how TCO is reduced. Not by banning use of Vista. For example I work for quasi government organization and they buy new PC. Pay the license for Vista, then downgrade it to XP. How that reduces the cost?!
ps. I would like to apologize to all people from Texas. I don't apply they are socialists. It is just one politician, who is pursuing his personal agenda.