AMD Comes Roaring Back: Analyzing Five Years of CPU Sales at Mindfactory

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It's well known at this point that Ryzen is fueling AMD's rise against Intel in the do-it-yourself PC market. We recently reported on the effect Ryzen 3000 had on AMD's sales at Mindfactory, one of Germany's most popular internet retailers, and now reddit user ingebor (who has compiled all of the Mindfactory data we've covered thus far) has charted sales data over the past five years that provides an incredible overview of AMD's rise since 2017.

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  • NightHawkRMX
    Wowee
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  • kinggremlin
    I find it really surprising there hasn't been more of a bloodbath at Intel in upper management based on the disastrous last 5 years. You can only be smug for so long without doing anything when you're on top before everyone realizes the competition has passed you. They've gone no where in 4 years since Skylake was released, and roadmaps indicate they're not going to go anywhere until 2021. We're looking at 6 years on the same architecture and node. It's practically unfathomable for a company with the resources of Intel that they have screwed up this bad and couldn't have headed this off at an earlier point.

    Intel is lucky that AMD was so buried when this started. It took 4 years of nothing for AMD to catch Intel. They're clearly going to pass them in all performance metrics in the next couple of years, while Intel continues to be stuck in 14nm hell. I can't believe that no one has been held accountable for this debacle and they just continue to listlessly drift along acting like the competition hasn't caught up and everything is going great.
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  • NightHawkRMX
    From what I see, even first-generation ryzen CPUs tie coffe lake refresh in sales numbers.

    Ow.
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  • TerryLaze
    kinggremlin said:
    I find it really surprising there hasn't been more of a bloodbath at Intel in upper management based on the disastrous last 5 years. You can only be smug for so long without doing anything when you're on top before everyone realizes the competition has passed you. They've gone no where in 4 years since Skylake was released, and roadmaps indicate they're not going to go anywhere until 2021. We're looking at 6 years on the same architecture and node. It's practically unfathomable for a company with the resources of Intel that they have screwed up this bad and couldn't have headed this off at an earlier point.

    Intel is lucky that AMD was so buried when this started. It took 4 years of nothing for AMD to catch Intel. They're clearly going to pass them in all performance metrics in the next couple of years, while Intel continues to be stuck in 14nm hell. I can't believe that no one has been held accountable for this debacle and they just continue to listlessly drift along acting like the competition hasn't caught up and everything is going great.
    I'm sorry but I don't understand,what's disastrous about having growth in a market that was prognosed to be stagnant at best?
    Intel is making money which is all that a company has to do.
    All that intel had to do to stay ahead was to add cores and that's what they did.
    Intel is still faster per core at everything we are still waiting on AMD to just get close.
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  • Loadedaxe
    kinggremlin said:
    I find it really surprising there hasn't been more of a bloodbath at Intel in upper management based on the disastrous last 5 years. You can only be smug for so long without doing anything when you're on top before everyone realizes the competition has passed you. They've gone no where in 4 years since Skylake was released, and roadmaps indicate they're not going to go anywhere until 2021. We're looking at 6 years on the same architecture and node. It's practically unfathomable for a company with the resources of Intel that they have screwed up this bad and couldn't have headed this off at an earlier point.

    Intel is lucky that AMD was so buried when this started. It took 4 years of nothing for AMD to catch Intel. They're clearly going to pass them in all performance metrics in the next couple of years, while Intel continues to be stuck in 14nm hell. I can't believe that no one has been held accountable for this debacle and they just continue to listlessly drift along acting like the competition hasn't caught up and everything is going great.

    I am sorry to burst your "someone needs fired at Intel" bubble. The sky is not falling.

    AMD has not surpassed Intel. Intel is still faster than Zen even at 14nm+++++.

    AMD is catching up, and its about time. But they don't deserve a medal for it. It took them 9 years.
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  • NightHawkRMX
    Loadedaxe said:
    But they don't deserve a medal for it. It took them 9 years.
    They dont get a medal, but they do get intel crushing sales.

    And intel didnt improve a lot over 9 years, so they are now seeing the effects of that.
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  • TerryLaze
    NightHawkRMX said:
    but they do get intel crushing sales.
    No they don't.
    The only store ... in the whole world ... that has better AMD than Intel sales is this one store we all hear about every now and then.
    One store in the whole world does not equal crushing ... anything.

    In the last quarter AMD made about 1,5 billion compared to intels 16,5...
    http://quarterlyearnings.amd.com/financial-information/quarterly-results
    http://quarterlyearnings.amd.com/static-files/33ed4154-376e-4edb-9690-4bdab97e2776
    https://www.intc.com/investor-relations/investor-education-and-news/investor-news/press-release-details/2019/Intel-Reports-Second-Quarter-2019-Financial-Results/
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  • Shumok
    TerryLaze said:
    I'm sorry but I don't understand,what's disastrous about having growth in a market that was prognosed to be stagnant at best?
    Intel is making money which is all that a company has to do.
    All that intel had to do to stay ahead was to add cores and that's what they did.
    Intel is still faster per core at everything we are still waiting on AMD to just get close.

    In these graphs, the line going down means that Intel's DIY sales and revenues are shrinking..not growing. Are you that confident that when the informed and knowledgeable users in the DIY market choose Ryzen, that this won't spill over into the other markets of less informed users as they get up to speed?
    Being faster per core is not enough now. What matters is overall performance per dollar, and AMD wins here. The gaming advantage that Intel still has is insignificant with the GPU/res combination that most people play at, and when it does exist..it's usually at such high framerates it doesn't matter for most who know better.
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  • Shumok
    Loadedaxe said:
    I am sorry to burst your "someone needs fired at Intel" bubble. The sky is not falling.

    AMD has not surpassed Intel. Intel is still faster than Zen even at 14nm+++++.

    AMD is catching up, and its about time. But they don't deserve a medal for it. It took them 9 years.

    You are wrong. AMD is now generally faster than Intel at most price points. Not to mention all of the other advantages. I'm guessing that the 'faster' that you meant, is the low res/extreme high end GPU gaming scenario that almost never impacts real user experience because AMD is already so fast there.
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  • refillable
    Mindfactory is a retailer for DIY PCs and while it's not the only DIY retailer in the world, it is enough to represent the DIY PC trend all around the world. However, the DIY market is small in terms of total PC revenue. For the DIY market, AMD will always have the advantage. AMD is a smaller company, so their mindshare would struggle to go through the mass population. This isn't a problem in the DIY market as they are mostly knowledgeable people. AMD also commits on sockets for much longer, which isn't really an advantage for most PC sellers. But, a 1.5 B increase of revenue on Intel is only a 10% increase, and 100% increase for AMD, and growth matters. In tech, having 10 times more revenue isn't going to get you anywhere if your product suck.
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