AMD's Ryzen 3000 Boost-Fixing BIOS Leaks Out, We Test With Ryzen 9 3900X and Ryzen 7 3700X

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Paul Alcorn
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Paul Alcorn is the Editor-in-Chief for Tom's Hardware US. He also writes news and reviews on CPUs, storage, and enterprise hardware.

  • NightHawkRMX
    Intel bites nails nervously.

    Seriously, Im not complaining about better performance with just an update.
    All intels updates seem to do is take away performance through patches.
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  • nitrium
    I'm super happy with my 3700X (coming off a i5 760) - everything feels snappier. I have been checking the boost behaviour of this CPU, and mine for sure never boosts above 4266 MHz - i.e. 133MHz shy of the advertised boost speed. I'm curious to see if the new BIOS fixes this in a real manner, but the discrepancy can be addressed with just a 3% boost increase, which doesn't seem like a huge stretch.
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  • redgarl
    Still using an MSI motherboard? You know, the BIOSes from them are taking longer to release and are usually still a work in progress. The x370 BIOSes for 3000 series are still in BETA after 2 months.

    As good MSI was for B450 and x470, they are the worst for the x570 chipset.
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  • redgarl
    "That's only 0.025 MHz short of the chips' spec, but many users have reported up to 300MHz deltas, and more. "

    Should be 0.025GHz or 25MHz. Is it a Beta posting?

    "While we see a higher peak boost, the chip runs at a lower frequency for the majority of the test. This might be a poor implementation of the firmware for this particular motherboard, or could be due to the beta nature of the BIOS. We'll have to wait until newer firmwares are released for this, and other, motherboards to get the full picture. We've pinged MSI for comment to see if the company can reproduce this result. "

    Nothing to do with AMD, more about MSI... from a Beta BIOS... I don't know why you didn't wait like Anandtech, to get the whole picture before rushing to the start line to be first and reporting this. Unfortunately, this is the trend here now... be the first and don't ask question... JUST POST IT!

    "This firmware appears to be a work in progress, but shows that the bugs are being ironed out and are fixable. "

    You would have known that if you read my first comment on the matter on your initial hit piece.

    https://i.ibb.co/KwtmD4b/toms.jpg
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  • Iczeman
    Is there any info that except fixing boost frequencies will new agesa fix isssue with WHEA errors on PCI-E which still occur and causing totally unreliable work/gaming PC platform?
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  • RodroX
    I feel like bad to write this again, but just because some users can't reach the advertised boost frecuencies, doesn't mean that all those chips are bad. Many users simple don't have the expertise or experience to deal with BIOS options, Windows intallation and drivers, and whatever unknown software that could be eating thier cpu power on the background.

    Also it seems that the CPU is the only one to blame when not reaching the boost frecuecy, when motherboards, chipsets, RAM, and the CPU COOLER colud be all part of the problem many users are havíng. Just a simple loose screw on a stock or after market cooler could be leading them to believe thier CPU is defective.

    Im not syaing that BIOS, SMU and microcode in general does not need to be worked out more, better, and updated. Juts pointing out the "issue" in some cases could just be the user.

    Cheers
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  • DMAN999
    My 3700x (Asus ROG Strix B450-F Gaming) Already hits 4.4 and even 4.425 GHz on a single core run of Cinebench, so if the new AGESA allows all cores to reach those speeds I will be Very happy.
    WByR6zkView: https://imgur.com/WByR6zk
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  • TJ Hooker
    DMAN999 said:
    My 3700x (Asus ROG Strix B450-F Gaming) Already hits 4.4 and even 4.425 GHz on a single core run of Cinebench, so if the new Agesa allows all cores to read those speeds I will be Very happy.
    Do you have PBO (or equivalent) enabled in the BIOS?
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  • DMAN999
    TJ Hooker said:
    Do you have PBO (or equivalent) enabled in the BIOS?
    Yes:
    6QlCmxjView: https://imgur.com/6QlCmxj
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  • bigdragon
    Looks like the new firmware still needs refinement. I expected a little better than the observed marginal improvements. I think AMD is going to need to take a more active and engaged role in firmware for its platforms. I think Intel learned years ago that firmware is hard and partners will only do the minimum to make things work. More resources need to be thrown at this boost clock problem.

    Personally, I'm thinking of migrating to a 3900X or 3700X. It may finally be time to retire the i7-4930k. Not sure if the upgrade cost is worth it though.
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