US, International Intelligence Fight Against Encryption

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  • milkod2001
    hhhh
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  • milkod2001
    Just testing if i can comment again. Thanks Toms.
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  • SkyBill40
    "The result is a massive surveillance network that encompasses most of the world and lets these countries assist each other with law enforcement investigations and matters of national security."

    SPECTRE much?
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  • mwryder55
    They can't even protect their own computers from unlawful access and they want to make it even easier for others to get into our computers and our data? A lot of data has to be encrypted to give some protection to it. I don't think anyone wants their credit card data open to the world to make it easier for some overpaid government employee to go fishing for some justification for his job.
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  • caustin582
    The alliance explained in the Statement of Principles on Access to Evidence and Encryption this week that the same encryption used to protect "personal, commercial and government information" is also used by "criminals, including child sex offenders, terrorists and organized crime groups to frustrate investigations and avoid detection and prosecution." They effectively argue that defending the former group enables the latter.
    Those latter groups also breathe oxygen. Maybe we should we get rid of that too?
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  • koga73
    Encryption is a privacy tool. Governments don't believe their citizens should have privacy. They aim to compromise the privacy provided by encryption in the name of stopping bad actors. There are numerous tools that can be used for good or bad, that doesn't mean the tool is inherently bad. Take security software for example, vulnerability scanners can be used by companies to identify vulnerabilities to patch, however they can also be used by hackers to identify vulnerabilities to exploit, does that mean we should ban vulnerability scanners? If governments want access to encrypted information then they should have to work for it and crack the encryption rather than asking for a backdoor or key escrow.
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  • compprob237
    Mass spying already violates the 4th amendment, at least for the US constitution, and they want to make it easier to violate the constitution? I have one word in mind for them: No. If it comes to it then the same saying used to defend the 2nd amendment applies: From my cold, dead hands. The government doesn't need more power and control over it's people. It needs less.
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  • shrapnel_indie
    In the same vein as compprob237's statements. Here is another one.. but first, of course the gov'ts involved won't back down on their encryption one iota.

    Do they really think the bad guys will say "Oh, it's illegal to encrypt now... oh well... I'll just click send anyway." or "Oh, it's illegal to encrypt now. we better stop being bad guys."

    Just like firearms, the bad guys won't care whether it's illegal to obtain, own, or use. They'll use it anyway. Meanwhile law abiding citizens/subjects/ will suffer because of it.

    Reality is the bad guys just make an excellent and handy excuse to strip the rest of us of rights that are supposed to be natural/inalienable or unalienable (at least in the eyes of the founding fathers of The United States.) Remember the Bill of Rights was put in place to restrict government from infringing on what was and are inalienable rights... or as they felt... God Given rights. (Yes. many were theists, not atheists or agnostics.)
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  • caustin582
    21292842 said:
    In the same vein as compprob237's statements. Here is another one.. but first, of course the gov'ts involved won't back down on their encryption one iota.

    Do they really think the bad guys will say "Oh, it's illegal to encrypt now... oh well... I'll just click send anyway." or "Oh, it's illegal to encrypt now. we better stop being bad guys."

    Just like firearms, the bad guys won't care whether it's illegal to obtain, own, or use. They'll use it anyway. Meanwhile law abiding citizens/subjects/ will suffer because of it.

    Reality is the bad guys just make an excellent and handy excuse to strip the rest of us of rights that are supposed to be natural/inalienable or unalienable (at least in the eyes of the founding fathers of The United States.) Remember the Bill of Rights was put in place to restrict government from infringing on what was and are inalienable rights... or as they felt... God Given rights. (Yes. many were theists, not atheists or agnostics.)

    I don't think that's a good comparison. The authorities here aren't saying it should be illegal for individuals to use encryption, but rather that companies should implement back doors in their hardware and software that allow them to easily get past the encryption. If implemented on the hardware level, this would in fact have a profound effect on everyone's ability to encrypt their information, regardless of how much they care about obeying the law. The only way to get around it would be to build your own CPUs, which is obviously not an easy task.
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  • mwryder55
    21293184 said:
    21292842 said:
    In the same vein as compprob237's statements. Here is another one.. but first, of course the gov'ts involved won't back down on their encryption one iota.

    Do they really think the bad guys will say "Oh, it's illegal to encrypt now... oh well... I'll just click send anyway." or "Oh, it's illegal to encrypt now. we better stop being bad guys."

    Just like firearms, the bad guys won't care whether it's illegal to obtain, own, or use. They'll use it anyway. Meanwhile law abiding citizens/subjects/ will suffer because of it.

    Reality is the bad guys just make an excellent and handy excuse to strip the rest of us of rights that are supposed to be natural/inalienable or unalienable (at least in the eyes of the founding fathers of The United States.) Remember the Bill of Rights was put in place to restrict government from infringing on what was and are inalienable rights... or as they felt... God Given rights. (Yes. many were theists, not atheists or agnostics.)

    I don't think that's a good comparison. The authorities here aren't saying it should be illegal for individuals to use encryption, but rather that companies should implement back doors in their hardware and software that allow them to easily get past the encryption. If implemented on the hardware level, this would in fact have a profound effect on everyone's ability to encrypt their information, regardless of how much they care about obeying the law. The only way to get around it would be to build your own CPUs, which is obviously not an easy task.

    If the backdoor exists, whether known or not, they will be found and exploited. Would you want your credit card information on a server that is open to the world?
    The other thing to remember is that people have been encrypting messages for millenia without the use of computers. The use of a simple one-time pad is fairly simple and there is no backdoor to be exploited by someone trying to read your messages.
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