Erasing Authors, Google and Bing’s AI Bots Endanger Open Web

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With the massive growth of ChatGPT making headlines every day, Google and Microsoft have responded by showing off AI chatbots built into their search engines. It’s self-evident that AI is the future. But the future of what? 

At Tom’s Hardware, we’re all about pushing the bounds of technology to see what’s possible so, on a technical level, I’m impressed with how human the chatbot responses look. AI is a powerful tool that can be used to enhance human learning, productivity and fun. But both Google’s Bard bot and Microsoft’s “New Bing” chatbot are based on a faulty and dangerous premise: that readers don’t care where their information comes from and who stands behind it. 

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  • USAFRet
    Or not...;)
    https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-bing-ai-chatgpt-refuse-job-cover-letter-application-interview-2023-2
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  • PlaneInTheSky
    There are no citations to tell you where these “multiple viewpoints” came from, nor is there authority to back up the assertions it makes.

    These "AI" machine learning algorithms have no concept of time either.

    Humans understand the concept of time. We understand past, present and future.

    There are lots of articles that talk about questional medical practices from the past, without indicating these are from a bygone era, because humans have a great concept of time. Most of these articles aren't dated, because why would they be, we intrinsically understand time. AI does not.

    I’ll admit another bias. I’m a professional writer, and chatbots like those shown by Google and Bing are an existential threat to anyone who gets paid for their words.

    Chatbots use algorithms to steal mass amounts of data from sources that fall under copyright.

    It's simply a form of mass plagiarism. Google an Microsoft are going to get their buts sued over this.
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  • setx
    I’ll admit another bias. I’m a professional writer, and chatbots like those shown by Google and Bing are an existential threat to anyone who gets paid for their words.
    And that's great! You know what chatbots have shown us? That they are as good as "average" writers of the web nowadays who also don't bother to get into details and fact-check everything.

    It's already hard to search for something on the web as you are drowned by copy-paste pseudo authors. That's why people don't see much difference when using chatbots.

    Most websites rely heavily on search as a source of traffic and, without those eyeballs, the business model of many publishers is broken. No traffic means no ads, no ecommerce clicks, no revenue and no jobs.

    Eventually, some publishers could be forced out of business.
    And that is also great. If your quality is chatbot-level or you are exploiting unsavvy people by running them through your shill links – you should be out.
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  • USAFRet
    setx said:
    And that is also great. If your quality is chatbot-level or you are exploiting unsavvy people by running them through your shill links – you should be out.
    One of the problems is in Forums like this.

    Chatbot generated "replies" sound sort of human, but not really good answers or solutions.
    But computer generated replies can overwhelm actual humans. 10 mediocre replies can rise to the top more than one good one that actually gets the problem fixed.
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  • setx
    USAFRet said:
    But computer generated replies can overwhelm actual humans. 10 mediocre replies can rise to the top more than one good one that actually gets the problem fixed.
    And that is the problem we already have today. Is every article written by human is actually good?

    I'm absolutely fine with every bad article written by human being replaced by bad article written by bot. Because no value was lost.
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  • USAFRet
    setx said:
    And that is the problem we already have today. Is every article written by human is actually good?

    I'm absolutely fine with every bad article written by human being replaced by bad article written by bot. Because no value was lost.
    I wasn't talking about news articles, but rather in help forums.
    "I have a problem with my foobar..."

    "It sounds like you're having an issue with...."
    "Do these 5 steps"
    "If that doesn't work, contact the manufacturer"

    We're already seeing this.
    It sounds human, and is sort of close, but no real fix for the persons actual problem.

    But given a lot of those replies, the real fix gets lost in the sauce.
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  • derekullo
    Everything is fine until some one asks ChatGPT;
    How would ChatGPT make itself better?
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  • setx
    USAFRet said:
    I wasn't talking about news articles, but rather in help forums.
    I was replying more in context of original article. Help forums are mostly safe from that and it looks like chatbots are not attacking them for now.
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  • derekullo said:
    Everything is fine until some one asks ChatGPT;
    How would ChatGPT make itself better?
    It could kill itself off
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  • USAFRet
    setx said:
    I was replying more in context of original article. Help forums are mostly safe from that and it looks like chatbots are not attacking them for now.
    Yes, I know you were.

    But they are attacking forums like this.
    Just between yesterday and today, I personally eradicated 3 of them. Dozens of "replies".
    Yes, really.
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