Chinese Hygon 16-core chip trades blows with AMD Threadripper 1950X in Geekbench — Chinese chipmaker continues to leverage AMD's Zen 1 architecture
But Hygon is stuck with the seven-year-old architecture, for now.
A new 16-core processor from Hygon—a fabless chip maker in China that uses AMD's first-gen Zen IP—has popped up on Geekbench. It offers 60% better performance than a similar eight-core Hygon processor we covered in the past. The performance bump isn't substantial when you consider the chip has twice the number of cores, but since the manufacturer is stuck on a now seven-year-old architecture—Zen 1—there isn't much that can be achieved apart from increasing core counts.
Looking at the Geekbench listing, the chip was benchmarked using the Hygon XHVTBST board under the openKylin 2.0 Operating System (based on Linux). The CPU is named Hygon C86-4G - alternatively dubbed C86 3490 - a step higher than the eight-core C86 3350 - belonging to the same Hygon C86-3000 family. The CPU offered a rather low base frequency of 2.8 GHz and was equipped with around 32GB of RAM. Since an older release of Geekbench was used for this benchmark, we've listed a few other x86 CPUs running the same version for comparison.
Packed with 16 cores and 32 threads, the Hygon C86-4G is a direct contender to the Ryzen Threadripper 1950X, and the performance delta isn't far off from what you'd expect. The abysmally low single-core score of 1073 points puts it on par with older Haswell and Skylake processors. In the multi-threaded department, it bodes fairly well at 8811 points as it inches ever so close to the Zen 1-based Threadripper 1950X. Still, modern-day CPUs such as the Ryzen 5 5600 (Zen 3) put it to shame with less than half the cores.
CPU | Cores/Threads | Single-Core | Multi-Core |
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Hygon C86-4G | 16/32 | 1073 | 8811 |
Hygon C86-3350 | 8/16 | 1042 | 5730 |
Ryzen 5 5600 | 6/12 | 2097 | 9313 |
Ryzen Threadripper 1950X | 16/32 | 1256 | 8809 |
US sanctions have barred chip makers from exporting high-performance devices to China and this is likely the reason we haven't seen a Hygon chip with Zen+ or a newer design. Likewise, scaling has not improved at all since 2021 when two C86 3185 chips (16 cores in total) were needed to beat one Ryzen 5 5600X. Reports suggest that the chip maker has found a way to allegedly port the Zen 1 architecture to AMD's latest SP5 socket for more I/O and better compatibility.
Besides that, Zen 2 was the defining architecture that introduced a paradigm shift in AMD's design philosophy as the company shifted to MCM - decoupling I/O and CPU cores into separate chiplets. So there is still a lot of headroom left for these chips. However, since Hygon relies completely on AMD's design, the pathway for future releases of these chips is narrowing.
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Hassam Nasir is a die-hard hardware enthusiast with years of experience as a tech editor and writer, focusing on detailed CPU comparisons and general hardware news. When he’s not working, you’ll find him bending tubes for his ever-evolving custom water-loop gaming rig or benchmarking the latest CPUs and GPUs just for fun.
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andrewoid "modern-day CPUs such as the Ryzen 5 5600 (Zen 3)"Reply
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Mama Changa Do we even care. No one in west will buy these dinosaurs if they were even available.Reply -
Kondamin
if they manage to pair it with an fpga chiplet or something they might find their nicheMama Changa said:Do we even care. No one in west will buy these dinosaurs if they were even available. -
micheal_15 Not just dinosaurs, embedded in the microcode (so not fixable) are instructions to install malware payloads to steal data and pump it to Bejing.Reply -
das_stig The west may not care, but those on sanction lists will, this is still a decent cpu for the age of their cpu industry and knowing the Chinese, they will use it to its maximum capabilities, especially if it can be used in multi-cpu systems.Reply -
NeonHD The question of whether you (westerners) should care about this is obviously beyond the point.Reply
Obviously you shouldn't care. And obviously it's outdated.
However, I admire the Chinese for trying. This is obviously not made to be marketed outside of China.
P.S. notice how many times I said 'obviously' -
Rabbit_AF Man, looking at Hygon c86 3350 boards on AliExpress, and none of them are under $600 USD. I can only guess that one of these boards costs double that.Reply -
hwertz
Yes. I am not only interested in goings on within the US,. And I read about a lot of tech I have no intention of ever buying. It's a tech site and it's not like there's such a big flood of stories about CPUs that one can't keep up (and one always has the choice of skipping the story.).Mama Changa said:Do we even care. No one in west will buy these dinosaurs if they were even available.
I'm quite interested in developments in what (in the past) was referred to as 'behind the iron curtain'. Are they improving on designs or just (as appears to be the case here) increasing clock speed or core count? Any interesting home grown designs? Etc, -
artk2219 While that performance is definitely not cutting edge, its still very usable for many applications, web servers, vm hosts, workstations, NAS devices, all sorts of things, especially if its reasonably efficient. Honestly its powerful enough for mid tier gaming. Sure it wont be pushing an RTX 4090 to its limits, but an Arc A580, RTX 3060, or RX 6600 would work just fine with it.Reply