Delidded AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D runs 23 degrees cooler

Delidding AMD chips, testing performance differences
(Image credit: Der8auer)

PC overclocking and hardware expert Roman ‘Der8auer’ Hartung has shared his before-and-after AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D delidding test results. His conclusion: enthusiasts can expect up to 10% higher performance with direct-die cooling, but the cost will be significantly higher power consumption. Alternatively, Der8auer observed that users could run the delidded CPU at stock settings and enjoy far lower temperatures, around 23 degrees Celsius lower in this case, plus improved efficiency. A comfortable compromise might be found between these sampled extremes.

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  • Dementoss
    Given that a 9950X3D costs around £700 here in the UK, there's no way I would risk trying delidding.
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  • JimboCA
    Imagine if AMD sold delidded CPUs for a small premium. It would take the risk out of it.
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  • thestryker
    JimboCA said:
    Imagine if AMD sold delidded CPUs for a small premium. It would take the risk out of it.
    TG is selling delidded CPUs with a warranty for a price premium and I think that's likely the best we're going to see even though I agree completely.

    https://www.thermal-grizzly.com/en/blog/new-the-tg-delidded-cpu
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  • Rpmolloy86
    thestryker said:
    TG is selling delidded CPUs with a warranty for a price premium and I think that's likely the best we're going to see even though I agree completely.

    https://www.thermal-grizzly.com/en/blog/new-the-tg-delidded-cpu
    Honestly, for the price he is charging, it is a an absolute steal of a deal. The labor is practically free when you take in to account the warranty it comes with. The temp drops alone are worth the price. That's a substantial amount of degrees.
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  • jackt
    WOW, why AMD do this to itself ?
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  • drivinfast247
    jackt said:
    WOW, why AMD do this to itself ?
    To maintain compatibility with am4 cooling products.
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  • stuff and nonesense
    jackt said:
    WOW, why AMD do this to itself ?
    No comment on the temps, the IHS provides mechanical protection to the silicon die. The first socketed Athlons were bare die, people managed to damage them by installing their coolers with uneven pressure. As for the current design.. yes it provides compatibility with AM4 coolers as @drivinfast247 says.
    It’s a compromise, good enough performance/cost/customer goodwill.
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  • doomtomb
    so these companies spend extra money to put these heatspreaders on all their die packages, but it actually decreases thermal performance, even when no one runs this without some sort of fan/heatsink solution. Genius.
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  • ilukey77
    thestryker said:
    TG is selling delidded CPUs with a warranty for a price premium and I think that's likely the best we're going to see even though I agree completely.

    https://www.thermal-grizzly.com/en/blog/new-the-tg-delidded-cpu
    Ive noticed there selling TG de lidded 9800x3d here in AUS $1200aud basically if you add the de lidded TG heat spreader which is recommended ..

    Unless you go the TG direct die water block for custom loops ..

    Cool idea for sure but not 100% sure on its over all purpose unless your playing games at 1080p and MAYBE 1440p there may be some gains with a cooler CPU .

    To my understanding the 9800x3d is a cooler beast than the 7800x3d and my 7800x3d never gets past 75c under R23 allcore with the 420mm arctic freezer iii ..
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  • thestryker
    ilukey77 said:
    Ive noticed there selling TG de lidded 9800x3d here in AUS $1200aud basically if you add the de lidded TG heat spreader which is recommended ..

    Unless you go the TG direct die water block for custom loops ..

    Cool idea for sure but not 100% sure on its over all purpose unless your playing games at 1080p and MAYBE 1440p there may be some gains with a cooler CPU .

    To my understanding the 9800x3d is a cooler beast than the 7800x3d and my 7800x3d never gets past 75c under R23 allcore with the 420mm arctic freezer iii ..
    I don't think delidding a modern CPU is generally going to be worthwhile unless you're doing direct die cooling. The biggest benefit there is that the superior cooling leads to the CPU running more efficiently which in turn gives better boost performance. I think if one was going to run a custom loop getting a delidded CPU that still carries a warranty is a good choice.
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