Huawei reportedly acquired two million Ascend 910 AI chips from TSMC last year through shell companies

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Although Huawei cannot legally obtain advanced chips made by TSMC, the company used shell companies last year to obtain compute chiplets for its Ascend 910 AI chips. The conspiracy was discovered by TechInsights and TSMC, which ceased to ship chiplets to Huawei's proxies and initiated an internal investigation. However, it was not clear how many chiplets it supplied to Huawei. According to a report by the Center for Strategic and International Studies, Huawei obtained as many as two million Ascend 910 AI chiplets.

"However, TSMC manufactured large quantities of Huawei Ascend 910B chips on behalf of Huawei shell companies and shipped the chips to China in violation of U.S. export controls," the report by CSIS reads.

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  • Pierce2623
    If TSMC doesn’t want your business, it’s pretty slimy to sneak if in like that. I used to claim that Huawei shouldn’t be treated as a direct proxy of the CCP, but they’ve clearly proven me wrong with this behavior.
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  • Marlin1975
    I don't get how this works? TSMC had to be in on this at least a little for it to work.

    Company A can't buy custom designed chips but company B comes along and wants to make the exact same chips that would be protected by company A. So TSMC does not see an issue and just makes them?
    Even if they thought they were licensed they would pick the phone up and make a few calls and run it past their legal office.

    Just does not pass the sniff test.
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  • TCA_ChinChin
    Pierce2623 said:
    If TSMC doesn’t want your business, it’s pretty slimy to sneak if in like that. I used to claim that Huawei shouldn’t be treated as a direct proxy of the CCP, but they’ve clearly proven me wrong with this behavior.
    I don't think TSMC doesn't want their business, but that they have no choice but to comply with US sanctions against Huawei. If TSMC could take Huawei's money without upsetting the US, they would gladly do so.
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  • phead128
    Greg Allen is an MBA think-tanker with CSIS. He is one of the biggest proponents of export controls on China, which has failed spectacularly. His target audience is the dinosaurs in Congress who couldn't tell you the difference between an CPU and GPU. I would take what Greg Allen he says with a grain of salt.
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  • George³
    I don't understand. Huawei acquired chips that were their own development and probably ordered for TSMC to burn in wafer before the embargo on this lithography process took effect. Where is the problem?
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  • phead128
    George³ said:
    I don't understand. Huawei acquired chips that were their own development and probably ordered for TSMC to burn in wafer before the embargo on this lithography process took effect. Where is the problem?
    The question is how an MBA think-tanker who has "industry sources" knows more about sanction violations than even Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS) and Department of Commerce (DOC) and even the CIA/NSA/FBI ??
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  • AkroZ
    George³ said:
    I don't understand. Huawei acquired chips that were their own development and probably ordered for TSMC to burn in wafer before the embargo on this lithography process took effect. Where is the problem?
    Ascend 910C begin production in 2024, the embargo was instaured in 2019.
    TSMC use many IP from USA, US law said they can restrain products worldwide when they use at least 25% US technologies.
    To make a Ascend 910C with TSMC, globally around 40-50% american technologies are used.
    Huawei invest heavily to reduce the dependencies on US technologies, but they are nowere near to produce "legally" Ascend 910C.
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  • bit_user
    Marlin1975 said:
    I don't get how this works? TSMC had to be in on this at least a little for it to work.

    Company A can't buy custom designed chips but company B comes along and wants to make the exact same chips that would be protected by company A. So TSMC does not see an issue and just makes them?
    How would TSMC know what chip they're making? They're not in the business of reverse-engineering their customers' IP. By the time they get the design, it's not much more than a set of masks. Sure, you can figure out certain incredibly basic things about it, but probably nothing that's a dead giveaway. Given how many chips they make for how many different customers, many of which are not sold to the general public, I don't find this too surprising.

    The main way you probably figure out what you're making is if you can require information about their downstream use, and then you actually do your own independent checks to see if the story is plausible and if that's where they ended up going. That costs money and takes personnel.
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  • tooltalk
    phead128 said:
    Greg Allen is an MBA think-tanker with CSIS. He is one of the biggest proponents of export controls on China, which has failed spectacularly. His target audience is the dinosaurs in Congress who couldn't tell you the difference between an CPU and GPU. I would take what Greg Allen he says with a grain of salt.
    What's not working in so-called "targeted sanction" against China vs. country-wide sanction that many CCP shills oppose.
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  • Pierce2623
    Marlin1975 said:
    I don't get how this works? TSMC had to be in on this at least a little for it to work.

    Company A can't buy custom designed chips but company B comes along and wants to make the exact same chips that would be protected by company A. So TSMC does not see an issue and just makes them?
    Even if they thought they were licensed they would pick the phone up and make a few calls and run it past their legal office.

    Just does not pass the sniff test.
    I don’t think it’s TSMC’s responsibility to examine every design to make sure they don’t I fring on others’ IP. That’s the responsibility of the people designing the chips. Small Asian companies are getting matrix math chips fabbed like crazy right now and TSMC would lose a ton of money skipping on small batch orders paying 2-3x the per-wafer price of their big customers. They don’t heavily examine anything coming in for n7 these days anyways….
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