AMD Ships 40W Six-core 'Istanbul' Opterons
This one runs in a 40W power band.
Earlier this summer AMD shipped its six-core "Istanbul" Opteron server chip, which ran with 75W power envelopes.
Today AMD announced the immediate availability of a new six core Opteron 2419 EE processor that'll run with 40W ACP, which the chip maker says is "tailored to meet the demands of customers who need strong performance, but must trim out every watt possible in a server system and reduce the datacenter’s power draw."
The Opteron 2419 uses the same core as other more power hungry chips but finds its savings by dialing back the clock speed to 1.8 GHz.
"It's important for our industry to look at how technology is being used and where customers have emerging needs," said Patrick Patla, vice president and general manager, Server and Workstation Division. "The AMD Opteron EE processor enables OEMs to deliver energy-sipping servers that don't compromise on power management, virtualization or performance features. It is specifically designed to help address the challenges that are generating a great deal of discussion these days - building and running very dense data centers for Web services, while doing more with less."
AMD did point out that this processor is now available for $989, but might not be available off the shelf from larger system builders, meaning that those who want this power-conscious chip will have to make special custom orders.
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seriously? why not just release 8 core already? way to milk more people for money but w/e cool i guess i'd only be intrested for like a 16 threaded 8 core nehalem EX ftw
I wonder when AMD will make a 6 core Phenom?
1. I think Tom's should start their own business computing benchmarking. Many of us are really interested in how those server chips run in real world applications. Not just web server, file server, banking, data base and/or online trading, but also as game server (yeah those pesky laggs) and probably security servers.
2. AMD should be more specific on which types of application do need lower clock speed but more cores. I can imagine it is mostly around heavy virtualization.
I wonder when AMD will make a 6 core Phenom?
They will probably try as soon as possible since the Intel i9 are due Q1 of next year (I think).
Impulse: I suppose 6 cores fails to meet your needs, which I am sure are quite extraordinary, and can only be met by an 8-core, non-existant Core i7 chip. Some people might assume you're some punk 15y/o who plays games on a Pentium IV, but I'm sure that you're some brilliant IT worker with all sorts of crazy technical skill
/sarcasm
Uh, yay, I guess? The server market is where the margins are at and I guess this would be a high yield part so I suppose the price makes sense. Still, it's not very news worthy except perhaps to a certain niche of data center managers.
40w? Slap that baby in a laptop, the prestige and bragging rights would be almost unbearable...
AFAIK Skulltrail was a consumer platform, meant for the uber 1337 enthusiast with too much money. They're pretty expensive though, so I guess that's the reason it failed.
Back OT: I too look forward for AMD to release some more inexpensive chips for the consumer market with more than 4 cores, although I can imagine more cores aren't really necessary *yet* for consumers.
i wonder when amd will have an 8 core for consumer desktops
the intel i7 920 hs 4 cores with ht which run 8 thread, it's amazing
my amd 955 just cant keep up even with the overclocking...
AFAIK Skulltrail was a consumer platform, meant for the uber 1337 enthusiast with too much money.
I think you are both right, skulltrail was some kind of bastard children of both. Most of the board was actually server-ish, but they added SLI/XFire support to it. In the end, I think the "server-grade" FBDIMM memory it required killed most the the performance for gaming applications...
1.8 GHz? = LAME
Ok, so a 40W ACP is nice, but what's the TDP? You know, since ACP does not equal TDP, and the latter is more important when planning the cooling for your servers ...
Impulse: I suppose 6 cores fails to meet your needs, which I am sure are quite extraordinary, and can only be met by an 8-core, non-existant Core i7 chip. Some people might assume you're some punk 15y/o who plays games on a Pentium IV, but I'm sure that you're some brilliant IT worker with all sorts of crazy technical skill/sarcasm
8 cores really help in CFD.
dark_lord69: I think you missed the part about how this could be powered by a laptop battery. 6 cores at 1.8ghz at 40w is very, very good, but they also make Opterons in a 3.0ghz flavor for people like you. Does Intel, Sun, IBM, Via or anybody else make a 3.0ghz 6-core at 40w? Does Intel even have a 40w part that can compete?
Someone asked so: TDP is 60W. http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15286/1/
Intel has a couple at 60W TDP (Intel TDP is not the same as AMD TDP), and those are 4-core. It would be nice to see a match-up between Intel's low power and AMD's new low-power. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_ [...] C_45_nm.29
There is no AMD 8 core proc. Its AMD 6 core then to AMD 12 core. Maybe they will make something new that will have 8 cores. Also does seem wierd its not a power of 2.
Oh yeah, and what about Intel's 65W 6-core Xeon? How does it compete against the newcomer?
AMD is...ok, and most of us experienced in the semi conductor industry know that the amd product is inferior to intel, from beginning to end. AMD is the subsidized (EU) intel wannabe.
Toms should do a cross generation shootout. say P4 @ 1.8 and all generations after at the same speed.
seems logical! Low power servers is important to companies!
dark_lord69: I think you missed the part about how this could be powered by a laptop battery. 6 cores at 1.8ghz at 40w is very, very good, but they also make Opterons in a 3.0ghz flavor for people like you. Does Intel, Sun, IBM, Via or anybody else make a 3.0ghz 6-core at 40w? Does Intel even have a 40w part that can compete?
http://insidehpc.com/2008/09/18/in [...] 00-series/
Awe, with out out the big vendors me to dumb to install processor.
I wonder when AMD will make a 6 core Phenom?
Six core chips would beneficial for virtual machine servers; not sure what the benefits would be in a standard desktop.
Wow, a 6-core 40W. Impressive.
AMD is the subsidized (EU) intel wannabe.
Yeah! Subsidized because they... uh... didn't... get any EU money...
RAWR EU BAD! KAISER SMASH! SMISH!
kaiser_25: Intel really does break the law. Here's some bits about the fascist and very anti-competitive organization known as Intel, since we already know about the monopoly abuses:
plans to decide what is "truth" on the internet for you:
http://thespec.com/News/Business/article/626011
they've built fabs on stolen land:
http://www.inminds.co.uk/boycott-intel.html
and these are the people that stole the land for them to build the fab on:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages [...] mNo=487412
http://snardfarker.ning.com/video/ [...] be-israeli
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/ [...] spx/133178
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1101158.html
http://www.counterpunch.com/shaaban08312009.html
Great people, right? Of course, you should never let your favorite corporation's immoral actions and questionable friends get in the way of your fanboyism. Please note that most of the articles come from that country's national newspapers, with the assumption that you're not reading it.
i wonder when amd will have an 8 core for consumer desktopsthe intel i7 920 hs 4 cores with ht which run 8 thread, it's amazingmy amd 955 just cant keep up even with the overclocking...
Your AMD 955 can't keep up with my Q6600@3.6Ghz forget about i7
1. I think Tom's should start their own business computing benchmarking. Many of us are really interested in how those server chips run in real world applications. Not just web server, file server, banking, data base and/or online trading, but also as game server (yeah those pesky laggs) and probably security servers.
With the cost of these chips (usually $1000 or more) and its associated parts, I think you'd be able to build 2 or 4 consumer-grade computers. There's a reason Tom's benchmarks server chips for web server or database applications, because their cost would be recouped by running your business 24/7.
2. AMD should be more specific on which types of application do need lower clock speed but more cores. I can imagine it is mostly around heavy virtualization.
Datacenters? Large databases? AMD already stated the target for these markets, I don't know how you could have missed that. It would be advantageous for apps that have thousands of micro requests/threads that could be completed with a low speed processor. Plus the heat decrease would be beneficial when you're running 50 of these in one room.
Actually those who are up to date with the bench marks between AMD phenom 2 x3 955 and in tell i7 720 , know that the 955 was able to hold it own against it, not beat it of course , and definitely destroy the Q6600 , but the phenom 2 x4 965 is much better
6 core at 40Watts is impressive...
But at $1000, a company is better off buying the higher clocked versions and buying a air conditioning unit for the server room... more money saved and more power...
40w 6core 1.8Ghz.... not impressive.
It maybe faster to have a higher clock quadcore that is also 40~50watt rating. The point of MORE cores is to get more computing power per socket... with reasonable power draws.
BUT CAN IT RUN CRYSIS