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Supposed Xbox Durango Dev Kit Sells for 20K

By - Source: VG247 | B 21 comments

Whether or not this dev kit is actually legitimate is still up in the air...

A few weeks ago, someone on the game dev forum AssemblerGames claimed to be in ownership of a Durango (the codename for the next-gen Xbox) developer kit and was selling it for $10,000. According to Digital Foundry's sources, the pictures that the individual, going by the handle "DaE", posted of developer kit were genuine.

DaE was banned from AssemblerGames after it was revealed that his sales posting had been a prank.

Strangely enough, a Xbox Durango dev kit surfaced on eBay with the seller listed as superdae. It doesn't take a huge mental leap to connect that handle with "DaE" from AssemblerGames. The auction is scant on details, aside from the listing of the condition of the Durango dev kit as "used."

The bidding ended yesterday, closing at $20,100, but the lack of details provided in the listing makes one wonder about the authenticity of the sale. The selling of dev kits obviously puts an individual in a legal minefield with Microsoft, but the company's yet to give any comments regarding the issue. Perhaps they're investigating the authenticity of the kit while prepping its lawyers to dish out a good legal beating?

 

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    JOSHSKORN , August 14, 2012 9:05 AM
    I just saw this on Yahoo! News. Ugh, they need to hurry up with next-gen consoles for the sake of PC gaming! I hope this Durango thing is real.
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    jerm1027 , August 14, 2012 9:17 AM
    belardoSake of PC gaming? Consoles kill PC gaming... PC gaming, already dead.

    Seriously dude? There are like a billion comparisons that say other wise. Here is one.
    http://youtu.be/ocVyrtcTpHw
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    SteelCity1981 , August 14, 2012 10:36 AM
    i just want to know what the final hardware specs will be so someone like tomshardware can build a pc system to those specs and benchmark it. So we have a really good idea what we will be dealing with when it comes out next year.
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    JJ1217 , August 14, 2012 11:17 AM
    SteelCity1981i just want to know what the final hardware specs will be so someone like tomshardware can build a pc system to those specs and benchmark it. So we have a really good idea what we will be dealing with when it comes out next year.


    Rumoured Crossfired HD 7000's GPU with a 16 core CPU. Seriously doubt that though.
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    chomlee , August 14, 2012 12:25 PM
    belardoSake of PC gaming? Consoles kill PC gaming... PC gaming, already dead.

    Really? You want to say that in this forum? You know it is called Toms Hardware right? Typically that is for people who build their own computers. Thats like going to an Apple forum and saying "Apple Sucks".
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    bucknutty , August 14, 2012 2:28 PM
    Come on MS just give us the specs already. I have been holding out on upgrading my desktop because I want to make sure it meets or exceeds the new xbox spec. I play at least one new game a month and most of them are direct ports.
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    CaedenV , August 14, 2012 2:30 PM
    jerm1027Seriously dude? There are like a billion comparisons that say other wise. Here is one.http://youtu.be/ocVyrtcTpHw

    An even better review would be to take an 'average' 2-3 year old desktop PC (which almost everyone has anyways) and put in $300 (the price of an xbox 360 with HDD) of gaming hardware. For the exact same price, there is simply no comparing the 2, the PC will always win. Plus the game selection for PC is huge, and generally cheaper than the console counterparts. I really don't get why people do consoles other than things like the wii which is a nice 'safe' little systems for your kids to play on and flail about with their wii remotes.
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    CaedenV , August 14, 2012 2:31 PM
    bucknuttyCome on MS just give us the specs already. I have been holding out on upgrading my desktop because I want to make sure it meets or exceeds the new xbox spec. I play at least one new game a month and most of them are direct ports.

    If you bought a new moderate to high end game rig a year or two ago then it will beat the new console coming out 1.5 years from now.
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    Anonymous , August 14, 2012 3:36 PM
    There are always going to be people that favour a console over a pc or vice versa, why does this forum always come back to bitching about it?

    For me playability comes into things far more than whether a game has amazing graphics or not so I couldn't care if they do bring out a next gen console or not. What I want is games that are great fun to play.

    I have both a PC and consoles for games before someone lands me in one camp or the other!
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    ghakes , August 14, 2012 5:04 PM
    Ok First off Toms hardware is not designed for any one type of group of people, it's not a PC builders
    forum. Secondly Pc gameing isn't dead, many good folks enjoy the ability to use a keyboard while
    playing a game. I personally don't, i prefer useing a joystick. I also enjoy not haveing to custimize every single game, i like just throwing a disk in and playing. But with that said i respect those who want to spend half their night setting up their graphics card and sound and keyboard and downloading driver after driver and what not. It's all good.............
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    spookyman , August 14, 2012 5:19 PM
    I wish there was some adult games avail for the new Durango.

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    mobrocket , August 14, 2012 5:19 PM
    CaedenVAn even better review would be to take an 'average' 2-3 year old desktop PC (which almost everyone has anyways) and put in $300 (the price of an xbox 360 with HDD) of gaming hardware. For the exact same price, there is simply no comparing the 2, the PC will always win. Plus the game selection for PC is huge, and generally cheaper than the console counterparts. I really don't get why people do consoles other than things like the wii which is a nice 'safe' little systems for your kids to play on and flail about with their wii remotes.


    that's not really fair... because you have the cost of the PC + the xbox...
    most people dont want their PC hooked up to their tv
    nor have their kids playing on it

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    mobrocket , August 14, 2012 5:20 PM
    better question is why would you buy one of these kits from EBAY?
    unless bill gates is standing next to it, i would say fake
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    alidan , August 14, 2012 5:33 PM
    CaedenVAn even better review would be to take an 'average' 2-3 year old desktop PC (which almost everyone has anyways) and put in $300 (the price of an xbox 360 with HDD) of gaming hardware. For the exact same price, there is simply no comparing the 2, the PC will always win. Plus the game selection for PC is huge, and generally cheaper than the console counterparts. I really don't get why people do consoles other than things like the wii which is a nice 'safe' little systems for your kids to play on and flail about with their wii remotes.


    you have to first add in a new psu, so there goes 100$
    so 200 left... i use a 5770, so what ever the equivilant of that but new

    there you have a computer than can play most games at 60 fps 1920x1200 with slightly lowered details.

    you also have to hope that the motherboard has a pciex16 slot, as i know many people years ago skimped on putting that into the computer for the sake of a cheaper computer.

    its annoying when i hear people cry the 360 is cheaper and such, and that a pc will cost them a grand, but realistically, they have a pc regardless of having a console or not, the little it takes to make it gaming is FAR cheaper in the long run than a 360.

    and one last thing on that note. got borderlands 2 for 40$ new, and if you know russian, you can get it legitimately for 12$

    CaedenVIf you bought a new moderate to high end game rig a year or two ago then it will beat the new console coming out 1.5 years from now.


    epic is pushing for what, 3 tflop so there is a gooc chance that if that goes through you wont have a good enough gameing pc anymore.
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    antilycus , August 14, 2012 8:10 PM
    Think about this. Developers need to come up with tens of thousands of dollars for a DEV kit to help make one platform more desired than others..... that is a stupid design and more reason that talented developers should get behind OUYA. It has enough horse power to do close to the same as PS3 and XBOX360 and only for 100 bones. Anyone who thinks the processing power behind XBOX360 and PS3 is way better, doesn't understand that developers STILL arent even close to taping into those other cores. Right now the better console = the better GPU, JUST LIKE PC's. Why should consumers need to drop 600+ every few years? Why should developers have to spend 10's of millions of dollars on the next greatest (yet still the same boring) FPS? Break the trend. Start the future. www.ouya.tv (i have no affliation with ouya, I just support it because it's better for everyone)
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    mousseng , August 14, 2012 10:32 PM
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    Think about this. Developers need to come up with tens of thousands of dollars for a DEV kit to help make one platform more desired than others

    What? Developers don't make devkits. Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo make the devkits, and I'm sure that's a gross overestimation of the actual cost of one.

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    ..... that is a stupid design and more reason that talented developers should get behind OUYA. It has enough horse power to do close to the same as PS3 and XBOX360 and only for 100 bones.

    Have you read anything at all about Ouya? It does not have the power of a PS3, let alone an Xbox 360. It has the processor and on-die GPU of a tablet - which is designed to almost look pretty at maybe 1280x720 (not 1080p).

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    Anyone who thinks the processing power behind XBOX360 and PS3 is way better, doesn't understand that developers STILL arent even close to taping into those other cores.

    I'm not following you here. You're saying the 360 and PS3 aren't any more powerful than Ouya because the two have untapped potential? While I totally agree that they do have untapped potential (PS3 especially - its hardware is just too frustrating to work with, to my knowledge), I would venture to say that means they have more power than Ouya.

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    Right now the better console = the better GPU, JUST LIKE PC's.

    Yes, and Ouya's tablet-grade GPU isn't comparable to even the 360's Xenos GPU - the Xenos is capable of 240 GFLOPS, compared to Tegra 3's 12 GFLOPS (both clocked at 500MHz).
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    alidan , August 14, 2012 11:45 PM
    moussengWhat? Developers don't make devkits. Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo make the devkits, and I'm sure that's a gross overestimation of the actual cost of one.Have you read anything at all about Ouya? It does not have the power of a PS3, let alone an Xbox 360. It has the processor and on-die GPU of a tablet - which is designed to almost look pretty at maybe 1280x720 (not 1080p).I'm not following you here. You're saying the 360 and PS3 aren't any more powerful than Ouya because the two have untapped potential? While I totally agree that they do have untapped potential (PS3 especially - its hardware is just too frustrating to work with, to my knowledge), I would venture to say that means they have more power than Ouya.Yes, and Ouya's tablet-grade GPU isn't comparable to even the 360's Xenos GPU - the Xenos is capable of 240 GFLOPS, compared to Tegra 3's 12 GFLOPS (both clocked at 500MHz).


    its not an over estimate. last i remember dev kits costed closer to 75 grand

    considering a dev kid can run any code for the console, that means that you an run burnt games and such, if a dev kit was even 5k or less, its almost a reasonable price if you never pay for a game.

    the current consoles barely ever render at 720p, much less 1080p,
    crappy video, but looking at these graphics, i can live with them, as it doesnt matter console, pc, gameplay is king, and everything else can take a back seat.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRY8SOj5qaw
    if the oyea looks at least that good, im perfectly ok with it.
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    Anonymous , August 15, 2012 12:52 AM
    That is a fake. What is pictured is actually a " SuperMicro SC745TQ-800 " , which is a normal computer shell.
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    billgatez , August 15, 2012 6:15 AM
    Why would any one buy this. it's not like it use full as MS could relece a patch to all known dev units making it useless.

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    Anyone who thinks the processing power behind XBOX360 and PS3 is way better, doesn't understand that developers STILL arent even close to taping into those other cores.

    That's a lie. the Xenon and Cell reached there limits some time ago.
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