Report: First AMD 28nm GPU Due in December
AMD may be unveiling its first 28 nm graphics chips before the end of the year.
Industry sources told Germany's heise online that AMD is targeting December 6 as a launch date.
There was no information which architecture these new GPUs will be based on, but there appears to be reason to believe that AMD may be unveiling performance desktop boards, which will become available in very limited quantities in December, heise said. Due to 28 nm transition problems, it may take some time until there is enough supply to meet demand.
If heise's sources are correct, then we assume that the announcement in December will be about AMD's Southern Island GPU family, which is expected to be called the Radeon HD 7000 series. We are expecting these GPUs to use Rambus' XDR2 DRAM memory instead of GDDR5, MIMD instructions instead of VLIW, support for PowerTune as well as x86 addressing and Partially Resident Textures.
TSMC reportedly increased its pricing for 28nm products as it noticed substantially higher demand than the company initially expected. Xbit labs speculated that TSMC's capacity for 28nm wafer production is only 7000 to 10,000 units during the current fourth quarter.
This isn't the first time we've heard about the Radeon HD 7000 series though. Read more about the AMD Radeon HD 7900 and XDR2 here.
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Please AMD, don't Fail like you did with bulldozer!!!!
i could use an upgrade, lets not delay anything...ok amd?
i could use an upgrade, lets not delay anything...ok amd?
Agreed, with BF3 out I need to upgrade asap and it would be nice to get the latest and greatest. I know the 6000 series isn't that old, but I really don't want to buy one now if a new series is just around the corner!
Yes, please shift the topic off of Bulldozer, my eyes hurt after that.
LMAO, i doubt it will fail like bulldozer :3, comon AMD i like ur gpu, but i don't have enough trust..
"TSMC reportedly increased its pricing for 28nm products as it noticed substantially higher demand" I'm not an expert but, with a higher demand shouldn't prices drop?
Still using TSMC ? Glo-fo must have disappointed AMD too much with 32nm CPU yields...
The fact that XDR2 memory is being used over GDDR5 has me concerned, mainly from the pricing aspect. While the memory is insanely fast, RAMBUS products have not been known to be cheap.
"TSMC reportedly increased its pricing for 28nm products as it noticed substantially higher demand" I'm not an expert but, with a higher demand shouldn't prices drop?
Higher Demand but not enough supply makes prices go up ......
you've really got to read about Economics 001 : Why you can sell coke @100USD if no one else have it
"TSMC reportedly increased its pricing for 28nm products as it noticed substantially higher demand" I'm not an expert but, with a higher demand shouldn't prices drop?
Prices increase when demand increases in the short run because of limited supply. In the long run increased demand will lower prices when the market adjusts to increase overall production and takes advantage of economies of scale, but in the short run economies of scale in production cannot be realized and prices will be bid up by demanders for the limited supply of a good.
In simpler terms, for the time being TSMC can only produce a certain amount of 28nm wafer and people want more than they can produce, so they raise the price because they can make more profit. If demand for 28nm wafer stays high then they will expand their production capabilities, meaning they'll have more to sell and in order to sell all of it they'll need to lower price.
Yay economics!
Blackhawk: It's called "we got you by the balls", it's how business is done today. Your logic is akin saying that companies spend too much money complying with regulations, therefore there'd be more jobs if we just deregulate everything.
Nevermind that the cost of regulation is almost solely in hired labor to keep up with it, but supposedly if they could save money by firing those people, they could then take same said money and use it to hire even more people, even though demand won't suddenly increase to require more production. In addition, we could also enjoy the benfits of lead, mercury and asbestos being re-added to everything, and skyrocketing cancer rates near factories.
Interesting, this runs counter to every other rumor/leak I've seen so far. Are you sure they aren't referring to the VLIW4 HD7800 series, which is scheduled to launch sometime in Q4?
Everything I've seen so far points to the HD7900 series launching in Q1 2012 at the earliest.
I guess we forgot to post the article about nvidia kepler cards already shipping huh?
http://news.softpedia.com/news/28n [...] 4370.shtml
Blackhawk: It's called "we got you by the balls", it's how business is done today. Your logic is akin saying that companies spend too much money complying with regulations, therefore there'd be more jobs if we just deregulate everything.Nevermind that the cost of regulation is almost solely in hired labor to keep up with it, but supposedly if they could save money by firing those people, they could then take same said money and use it to hire even more people, even though demand won't suddenly increase to require more production. In addition, we could also enjoy the benfits of lead, mercury and asbestos being re-added to everything, and skyrocketing cancer rates near factories.
except youre completely wrong
http://blogs.wsj.com/numbersguy/th [...] e-us-1031/
The Six of December is my Birthday (not joking, I can send you my ID/Passport)
AMD, I want a 7990 for my Birthday
FU
just bought a HD6970 assuming the next gen wasn't due until early 2012.
Well... december 6th is too late for Skyrim anyway
Maybe shoulda waited to upgrade until the Radeon 7000s came out. Oh well, I'm very happy with my 6850
Please AMD, don't Fail like you did with bulldozer!!!!
I don't think it will fail. It has all the right parts: A die shrink that lowers power consumption greatly, more SP uints, faster memory bandwidth, higher clocked stock core and some new features.
If anything the HD7900 series should give better performance at a lower power rating. The HD7800 series and lower will be refreshes of the HD6K series but will as well use much less power.
shinobi: Brilliant article from the always on-point WSJ. 10 paragraphs of "uh, hurp-a-durp we don't really know, and we can prove it, but we guess that... based on incomplete data... with a bunch of anecdotal evidence...". I'm a native English speaker and I'm having a hard time grasping what that article was about.
The only thing worse than that article is you choosing to link it at all. I don't see anything in that article that suggests anything other than the cost being labor, or "technical expertise" as they put it, which means, subject matter experts, aka: people who don't need welfare because they make enough money to pay for their own house.
Nice but I couldnt wait until December, got my self a GTX 580 3gb version for BF3. 2560 x 1600 res going to rock!
Hopefully there won't be any last-minute 6 month delays!
ATI hasn't failed since AMD took them over. If I worked for ATI before AMD took them over I'd be pissed off seeing how uncompetitive AMD in the CPU area has become, it's a joke.
I don't think it will fail. It has all the right parts: A die shrink that lowers power consumption greatly, more SP uints, faster memory bandwidth, higher clocked stock core and some new features.If anything the HD7900 series should give better performance at a lower power rating. The HD7800 series and lower will be refreshes of the HD6K series but will as well use much less power.
the 6 k was a refresh of the 5k, i though that the 7 k would be new arcetecture?
"TSMC reportedly increased its pricing for 28nm products as it noticed substantially higher demand" I'm not an expert but, with a higher demand shouldn't prices drop?
its the opposite with the laws of supply and demand. demand high=higher prices to meet with the lack of supply. basic economics brah
AMD, please us with your new GPUs, but not in the way you 'pleased' us with Bulldozer.
LMAO, i doubt it will fail like bulldozer :3, comon AMD i like ur gpu, but i don't have enough trust..
Who cares unless you have between $200-$900 to go buy this new ATI video card then be my guess. Don't go and buy a new card because it coming out buy the current one.
the 6 k was a refresh of the 5k, i though that the 7 k would be new arcetecture?
The HD7900 series is based on AMD's GCN (Graphics Core Next). The HD7800 series and below are based on VLIW4, and are basically 28nm revisions of the HD6900 series.
TSMC better not F*** it up this time with the production.
if amd gets it right (less worried about their gpus..more worried about their driver support) a raedon hd 7850 with 90watt tdp might be a very good deal.
Higher Demand but not enough supply makes prices go up ......you've really got to read about Economics 001 : Why you can sell coke @100USD if no one else have it
hmmm... Economics 001, what the heck is that? you mean 101... anyone ever had cooking 001?
i see x86 addressing...CPU engineers love GPU engineering. so they leave there bulldozer job behind.kekekeke