Report: All Nvidia G84/G86 Chips Defective
It appears that Nvidia’s notebook chips aren’t the only ones that could be defective, if an Inquirer report is to be believed.
According to sources, the entire line of G84 and G86 chips all suffer from the same defect, regardless of desktop or notebook application. The chip generation utilizes the same Application Specific Integrated Circuit (ASIC), which supposedly has an issue with an “unnamed substrate or bumping material, and it is heat related.”
As expected, Nvidia is staying mum on the topic, but analysts are spilling various details. One story is that HP was the recipient for the majority of the defective chips – only limited to a specific batch. Further explanation reveals that it was isolated to an end-of-life batch that used a different bonding/substrate process.
The story with HP didn’t fly with the Inq, as it believes that no changes in process were made throughout the chip’s cycle, leading to suspicions that the defect is widespread. Furthermore, Dell responded quickly to failure reports by quickly issuing a BIOS update that pumped up the cooling for the vulnerable chip parts, which clearly shows that the problem ventured beyond just HP. Now HP has also a new BIOS to run the fan at all times at the expense of battery life.
While evidence may point to only notebook chips being afflicted, one theory is that notebook chips go though more stress than their desktop counterparts. Notebooks are power cycled more often, and by extension the GPUs go through more heat cycles – quickly exposing the defect. GPUs in notebooks may also be harder to cool, with less space for elaborate heatsinks and fans.
Unfortunately for owners of Nvidia G84 and G86 hardware, this could just be the tip of a very troubled iceberg.
Last time I checked silicon doesn't make noise. You "first hand experience" had to be a mechnical issue and thus not the same problem as the one mentioned here.
Well i own an XFX 8600GT @ 620Mhz (over clocked by manufacture)touch wood its still ok...
But everest give me tempratures of between 50 - 55 degress celcius. Is this one of the issues?
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I had (had) 2 HP laptops ,DV 6599ee and DV6899ee ,both coasted me a fortune,both have the same nvidia disasterus 8400m GS,both now defective.
The problem shows itself as a crash in the OS (regardless of OS type itself) whenever you try to run any Graphics card-related aplication,such as Videos and games,the OS crashes n a message notifys you that ( nvdllmkm has crashed and recovered).
youcan actually bypass this problem by uninstalling the GC Driver,yet,you will notbe able to run any games or videos any more.
Soooooooooooory,but now I really hate nvidia,I had to pay 3000 $ for my laptops,now I just gave them to my chuld n my youngest bro to learn using PCs,n also,I am learning them to hate nvidia!!!!
It's typically not the cpu itself, it's the motherboard. A lot of 680i boards suffer from the squeaky cpu problem. I had an old motherboard that had noisy ram slots, it was a commonly reported issue. I don't understand how but its true.
I've been hammering away at my 8800 for a year and a half, no problems whatsoever. I've never had a high-end graphics card stay on the leading edge of speed for so long (well over a year before they beat it by any real margin!)
It has a lifetime warranty from eVga anyway, so who cares? I'll just get the latest greatest for free when this one bites the dust someday.
I'd like ATI/AMD to survive just to give nVidia/Intel competition, but at the time the 8800 was the fastest thing on the planet by a large margin. 100% solid and reliable for me. =]
Inq shouldn't even be lining the bottom of birdcages, it's that poor.
As we have heart today from the CC, the Quarterly results and answers given on the questions asked by the analysts, this is absolutely not the case.
My X1900XT buzzes, replaced it with a 8800GTX, it buzzes even louder. so far the 4870 has not made a peep, its just luck. I have a motherboard that does it too.
I never noticed the X1900XT making noise until i moved it out of my Sonata case. so many users with quiet or noise dampening cases will not hear it. Now the 8800GTX lives in a Sonata II and you would be hard pressed to hear it now.
I do not think the buzzing had to do with the dead card, just bad luck.
Unless he would like to be thrown in jail by the SEC for saying something completely blatantly wrong to Nvidia shareholders, the real press (unlike The Inquirer) and analysts and then hiding an issue that's much more severe (all desktop GPUs in the G84 and G86 family being defective), I'm pretty sure it's just Charlie's vendetta against Nvidia at this point.
...... This cant be good for Nvidia