QuakeCon 2011 Keynote: RAGEing Over No Doom 4
QuakeCon 2011 is in full swing, and while the annual Keynote address was chock full of RAGE-related news, Doom 4 was nowhere to be seen.
Being the giant id Software fanboy that I am, QuakeCon is and always has been my favorite gaming event every year. The annual keynote address, typically kicked off by Todd Hollenshead and wrapped up by John Carmack, has a lot to do with that sentiment.
This year's event was no different than QuakeCon keynotes of yore, starting with Mr. Hollenshead rattling off several awesome-sounding QuakeCon-related game sales. Every iOS game put out by id (Rage/Rage HD iOS, Doom II RPG, Wolfenstein, etc.) will be at least half-off throughout the weekend. Furthermore, if the Rage Facebook pages gets 100,000 likes by the end of the weekend, the Rage iOS games will be free for a limited time. For the PC gamers out there, there are plenty of deals to be had, too; the Doom/Quake pack (which includes every Doom and Quake game available on Steam) is only $29.99. You can also buy the "QuakeCon Pack," which includes every Bethesda Softworks and id Software title available on Steam, for only $69.99. That price goes down even more if you pre-order Rage, Skyrim, or both.
The one sad bit of news to come out of QuakeCon 2011? There will be no mention of Doom 4 at this year's event. id wants to keep all of the focus on Rage, which is understandable, but we seem to recall Todd Hollenshead promising some sort of Doom 4 news in 2011 during his QuakeCon 2010 keynote. For now, however, we're stuck with "better luck next year."
After the new Rage trailer debuted and Hollenshead gave the introductory remarks, John Carmack took the stage for one of his legendary QuakeCon talks. Over the course of about 2.5 hours, Carmack touched on Rage ("...the most enjoyable game I've ever done"), the Android platform ("...[I have] too many other things on my plate to make Android development a personal crusade") and how patents are causing a headache for everyone ("...everyone's infringing and everybody knows it; it's a parasitic cost for the computer industry").
Carmack also had some choice words for NASA, saying the entity was no longer "a good value," and that the recently-closed Space Shuttle program was an experiment that lasted two decades longer than it should have. As for his own Armadillo Aerospace, which actually had an operating profit this years, John revealed that AA would no longer seek government contracts and focus on its own internal goals and experiments.
Other exciting tidbits:
- There is no plan or team in place for a future Quake title.
- The id Tech 4 engine (Doom 3, Quake 4, Brink) will be come open source "later this year."
- Quake Live is a "business failure" - it loses money for id Software - but they don't plan on shutting it down anytime soon.
- Doom 4: Will probably run at 30 Hz for single player, and 60 Hz for MP. Most of the Rage dev team will migrate to Doom 4 once the game ships later this year.
- Rage 2 is going to happen after Doom 4, assuming Rage 1 is a success.
- Rage will not have dedicated servers, and there will be no Eyefinity support at launch.
- id Software currently has no Mac or Linux strategy.
We'll be posting more news as the weekend progresses, and we should have some id Software interviews to post as well in the coming days. Stay tuned!
[Ed. Note: For the lucky few attending QuakeCon this weekend: If you see me - look for the Tom's Hardware press badge- don't be shy! Say hello! If you follow me on Twitter (@devinconnors) I'll try and keep my whereabouts updated. -Devin Connors]
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No Doom 4??? PENIS!!!! PENIS TO THE CORE!!!!!!!!!!

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o well at lest DEAD ISLAND is coming soon
No Linux strategy ?
Faggot.
No Linux strategy ? Faggot.
If you're going to post here, at least be mature about it. Moving on..."no Linux strategy" makes a lot of sense because releasing games for Linux is not going to be a money maker. Game development is a business, and businesses follows the money (consoles, iOS).
-Devin Connors, Tom's Hardware
Spoiler alert, Doom 4 WILL make a appearance Carmack will give a preview himself as he goes on stage and instructs everyone to close their eyes and vola Doom 4!
Creepy much?
If you're going to post here, at least be mature about it. Moving on..."no Linux strategy" makes a lot of sense because releasing games for Linux is not going to be a money maker. Game development is a business, and businesses follows the money (consoles, iOS).-Devin Connors, Tom's Hardware
While you are 100% right, I think its clear his post is not meant to be taken seriously.
-NuclearShadow, future husband of Jane McEntegart.
Don't worry Linux fanboys. Just wait another six or seven years til the engine is open sourced, and then you can port the game yourself. Then with Doom 3 and Tux Cart, you'll have THREE games to play! Won't it be exciting?
This is bullcrap, they promised details on doom 4 at last year's quakecon reckon we gonna wait 2-3 years for that to be released
Don't worry Linux fanboys. Just wait another six or seven years til the engine is open sourced, and then you can port the game yourself. Then with Doom 3 and Tux Cart, you'll have THREE games to play! Won't it be exciting?
Don't forget Crayon physics deluxe! It's easy being the most stable OS when it has nothing to do. Linus Torvalds uses a Mac running Windows with boot-camp. (I just made a lot of fellow nerds angry)
"-Devin Connors, Tom's Hardware"Faggot!
Homophobia is soo last century!
I don't understand, 30Hz SP and 60Hz MP? Are those monitor refresh rates?
Didn't they mean fps?
I don't understand, 30Hz SP and 60Hz MP? Are those monitor refresh rates?Didn't they mean fps?
Hertz simply means cycles per second. Your monitors refresh rate simply happens to be measured in hertz as well, so is your processor speed. It actually makes more sense as far as the programming goes, because much more is going on behind the scenes than drawing the graphics, as the term "frames per second" would imply.
Homophobia is soo last century!
Still massively popular in the US military though, how's that dont ask dont tell policy working out?
Still massively popular in the US military though, how's that dont ask dont tell policy working out?
Not sure where you are from but Obama revoked the don't ask don't tell policy. Also its unfair to suggest that the military itself was homophobic politicians made the law not the military themselves. In-fact part of the repeal of don't ask don't tell which lets our brave men and women be open about who they are was decided on a poll within the military that showed the majority had no problem with accepting openly homosexual men and women from serving.
If you're going to post here, at least be mature about it. Moving on..."no Linux strategy" makes a lot of sense because releasing games for Linux is not going to be a money maker. Game development is a business, and businesses follows the money (consoles, iOS).
-Devin Connors, Tom's Hardware
This makes no sense at all, ever looked at the humble indie bundles?, the amount of Linux players on Savage2 and Heroes of Newerth?
Those are all examples of Linux games earning a company a lot of money!
Linux is a rising gaming platform, not to ignore.
Spoiler alert, Doom 4 WILL make a appearance Carmack will give a preview himself as he goes on stage and instructs everyone to close their eyes and vola Doom 4! Creepy much? While you are 100% right, I think its clear his post is not meant to be taken seriously. -NuclearShadow, future husband of Jane McEntegart.
rofl on that last bit....but you'll have to fight the rest of us first.
No dedicated servers? Can you say "CONSOOOOOLE POOOOORRTTT!!"
Does anyone really care about Doom? The old one's where of course great but the new one really sucked. I was surprised to see people where disappointed about no talk of Doom 4.
This makes no sense at all, ever looked at the humble indie bundles?, the amount of Linux players on Savage2 and Heroes of Newerth?Those are all examples of Linux games earning a company a lot of money!Linux is a rising gaming platform, not to ignore.
Something about your post made me feel so lonely...
This makes no sense at all, ever looked at the humble indie bundles?, the amount of Linux players on Savage2 and Heroes of Newerth?Those are all examples of Linux games earning a company a lot of money!Linux is a rising gaming platform, not to ignore.
Dude I totally hear you, but those games have a smaller dev team and a smaller budget, so going to Linux isn't as big of a risk for the aforementioned. Taking a AAA title like Rage and bringing it to the Linux masses would take a dedicated team of developers and a significant amount of money.
-Devin Connors, Tom's Hardware
Doom 3 was actually really good. The horror element were implemented really good, and the graphics for that time were the paramount of what a PC can achieve.
@idlerp Thanks the the explanation.
Here we go again, another console semi-port.
no dedicated server,or linux?.....how sad,i mean it is ID we are talking about here.
"Rage will not have dedicated servers"
Wow, that's pretty idiotic. I love how console problems have fully infected PC users...
On another note. I don't think it's PC gaming that's died, I think it's the PC developer that's sold out. The platform is fine, it's the dumb-shit developers that can't seem to detach from the console cash nipple long enough to make anything worthwhile for PC.
We need a new PC development team that hasn't been bought by EA or the likes...
Weee aaare aaall doooomed!!! But at least I can go out with raaaaage
alexapi32
Doom 3 was actually really good. The horror element were implemented really good, and the graphics for that time were the paramount of what a PC can achieve.
@idlerp Thanks the the explanation.
I still play doom 3 and with everything maxed out @1080p it still looks pretty damn good, graphics wise it does not feel like something that came out so long ago
Linux games are not good business right now for the big studios, but there are companies making it successful. I as a linux user feel a bit sad when I hear that id is not supporting whereas they have in the past, but oh well. Gaming is not why I use linux, actually I hardly play games these days, getting too old at 35 it seems.
I'm still confident we'll see a linux installer within the next year.
can't give up hope ...
Linux games are not good business right now for the big studios, but there are companies making it successful. I as a linux user feel a bit sad when I hear that id is not supporting whereas they have in the past, but oh well. Gaming is not why I use linux, actually I hardly play games these days, getting too old at 35 it seems.
That's at least 20 years too soon to retire from PC gaming.
On another note. I don't think it's PC gaming that's died, I think it's the PC developer that's sold out. The platform is fine, it's the dumb-shit developers that can't seem to detach from the console cash nipple long enough to make anything worthwhile for PC.We need a new PC development team that hasn't been bought by EA or the likes...
Very well said. That statement hits at the very core of what's going on in (going wrong with?) the gaming industry.
Here we go again, another console semi-port.no dedicated server,or linux?.....how sad,i mean it is ID we are talking about here.
"Rage will not have dedicated servers"Wow, that's pretty idiotic. I love how console problems have fully infected PC users...
Oookay, I'm rather confused about this. RAGE is completely a single-player game, no multiplayer. What in the world would dedicated servers possibly be for?
This game doesn't really need dedicated servers. As far as I can tell you can play a portion of the game coop, and the multiplayer is only "deathtrack" racing. Which would probably go down well at lans and between small groups of friends. But I doubt is really aimed at large amount of players. Therefore a single line from a decent player should be enough to host you and your friends game.
The MP in Rage is all about racing cars and battling in cars, so dedicated servers aren't really a must. As for calling it a "console semi-port", what are you basing that on? The whole point of id Tech 5 is that it can be easily re-compiled for each of the major platforms. It's platform-agnostic, not a port (it looks, plays and controls VERY well on the PC, trust me).
-Devin Connors, Tom's Hardware