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Graphics Cooling, Liquid Cooling, And High-Res Monitors

Tom's Hardware's AMA With Asus, In Its Entirety
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Q. More and more people are running Distributed Computing projects on their hardware 24/7 which generates lots of heat...I would love to see more high end cards (like the HIS 7950 IceQ Turbo) make an effort to actively push at least a proportion of heat out the back of the case. Perhaps some kind of hybrid cooling dividing the heat output could be possible?

A. Our focus on graphics cards design is creating superior to reference designs with key focus being on cooling and acoustics. Blower type fan as less efficient and louder than the dual axial/impeller based design we use. In some situations the delta can be greater than 15 to 20c. Additionally we do extensive testing on many chassis/cases and have found modern chassis with good airflow are only moderately impacted by heat that may be partially exhausted into the chassis. In addition blow based design can also increase internal chassis ambient temperatures due to hot spotting of the PCB due to considerably increase temperatures. As such it comes down to a combination of picking the chassis and layout for whatever GPU you use. As of now due to the superior performance we offer in our solutions we are still keeping focus on non-blower based designs. With that noted we will continue to monitor feedback from our users and the community as a whole.

Q. Will the Asus Poseidon be released with the Asus VI formula? Really looking forward to getting those :)

A. The formula should be available within the next month so keep the look out. As for the Poseidon it is still under design and development.

Q. Why is there not more push for water-cooling north bridge/south bridge/ cpu on AMD and Intel based Asus boards?

A. Currently the highest amount of water-cooling comes from Intel based chipsets. Additionally as complete independent water cooling is a more expensive solution it is a slightly different price band due to AMD chipsets lower cost. With that noted we continue to produce high performance boards and work with partners at ensuring there are options for users looking for water-cooling on our AMD series boards. As always should we get enough feedback this is something we would consider in the development of our boards. Keep in mind though the overall task is more complicated than just making a block as we have to design a solution that provide great passive ( air ) performance as well as solid water cooling experience. This is important as only a small % will use the optional water cooling.

Q. I'm really interested in hearing any plans for higher resolution monitors also. When can we expect high DPI desktop monitors at 24" or less? Is there a chance for 3840x2400 and not only 3840x2160? Will monitors stick to that resolution, or can we expect even higher ones in the near future?

A. I can't get into specifics but you should start to see higher DPI monitors in those smaller sizes starting in the second half of next year.

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    Aoyagi , June 28, 2013 3:13 AM
    So I take it Asus is, in fact, not planning to broaden its AMD laptop selection since they didn't respond to the question about that. Unfortunate, I really liked the brand.
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    kennai , June 28, 2013 4:08 AM
    On page 8, the first answer is to the second question, and the second question is to the first answer. Was staring at that second answer for like 2 minutes being like, whaaaaat.
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    kennai , June 28, 2013 4:08 AM
    On page 8, the first answer is to the second question, and the second question is to the first answer. Was staring at that second answer for like 2 minutes being like, whaaaaat.
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    bim27142 , June 28, 2013 6:12 AM
    They didn't answer my question. :(  :(  :( 
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    Madn3ss795 , June 28, 2013 8:39 AM
    I was excited so see any sights of an ITX AMD board from Asus. Sadly all answers led to a big "NO".
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    slomo4sho , June 28, 2013 12:58 PM
    Sadly, Asus is too Intel focused to concern themselves with any innovating anything on their AMD lineup.
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    vmem , June 28, 2013 1:03 PM
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    Sadly, Asus is too Intel focused to concern themselves with any innovating anything on their AMD lineup.


    ASUS is a business, and like any good business they're only concerned with MAKING MONEY. this is actually a GOOD THING, they have a clear goal and they know how to go about doing it: make good products that consumers want to buy.

    a huge part of making money and running a business is getting brand recognition, something AMD has been TERRIBLE at until recently. and ASUS made their point clear, they're not favoring Intel, their marketing research simply says there is insufficient demand. this is because when you walk into best-buy or even microcenter, at least 90% of the people shopping there still equate Intel with CPU. when that changes, ASUS will focus on AMD more. it's really that simple
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    vmem , June 28, 2013 1:05 PM
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    Awesome info here... though I'm kinda bummed they had no info about pricing on that 39" 4k monitor. I'm drooling at the thought of acquiring one of those since it's using a cheap VA panel, assuming ASUS doesn't get greedy and charge a ton for it.

    Can't wait to be rid of this 1080p plague.


    I don't think it's a simple matter of greed. they can't price it TOO cheaply, or else their 31" 4K monitor with the nice Sharp panel won't sell. They have to price it appropriately for the quality and the market. if I were to venture a guess I'd say it'll be around $2-2.5K when it comes out.
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    lp231 , June 28, 2013 1:43 PM
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    Awesome info here... though I'm kinda bummed they had no info about pricing on that 39" 4k monitor. I'm drooling at the thought of acquiring one of those since it's using a cheap VA panel, assuming ASUS doesn't get greedy and charge a ton for it.

    Can't wait to be rid of this 1080p plague.


    I don't think it's a simple matter of greed. they can't price it TOO cheaply, or else their 31" 4K monitor with the nice Sharp panel won't sell. They have to price it appropriately for the quality and the market. if I were to venture a guess I'd say it'll be around $2-2.5K when it comes out.


    From the web, the 31.5" will cost around $3799 to $4000. I expect the 39" to be close to $10,000.

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    slomo4sho , June 28, 2013 3:30 PM
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    ASUS is a business, and like any good business they're only concerned with MAKING MONEY. this is actually a GOOD THING, they have a clear goal and they know how to go about doing it: make good products that consumers want to buy.

    a huge part of making money and running a business is getting brand recognition, something AMD has been TERRIBLE at until recently. and ASUS made their point clear, they're not favoring Intel, their marketing research simply says there is insufficient demand. this is because when you walk into best-buy or even microcenter, at least 90% of the people shopping there still equate Intel with CPU. when that changes, ASUS will focus on AMD more. it's really that simple


    AMD had nearly 50% market share in 2006 which has gradually dwindled to the current ~16-17% which is around a 10% drop from a year ago. The overreaching bias on tech sites over the years have fortified Intel's position as a monopoly over the CPU market and the lack of features such as PCIe 3.0 and Thunderbolt on AMD exemplifies the perception that AMD is inferior to Intel.

    The reality is that AMD has a clear advantage in integrated GPU solutions that would be optimal for small form factors but the lack of hardware and absence of media coverage perpetuates a fallacy that Intel provides the best solution for all computer needs.

    I, for one, will not be supporting Asus since ASRock and MSI continue to provide a much more balanced solutions on both platforms.
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    soundguruman , June 28, 2013 3:55 PM
    I would not buy an Asus product, if it were the only available product on earth.
    The quality control is a joke, and the customer support is even worse.
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    anything4this , June 28, 2013 6:27 PM
    Pretty sure I saw a $1000 46"/4k tv (unknown brand) about a week ago. Pretty good considering alternatives.

    Heres a $600 39" one: http://www.overclock.net/products/skyworth-39e780u-uhd-tv/reviews/6071 :D 
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    anything4this , June 28, 2013 8:12 PM
    Found the one i was speaking of: http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/25/seiki-launches-39-inch-4k-tv-for-699/

    39" as well, but from sears, so no agent/overseas shipping risk :)  (100+ extra though with better support i guess)
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    sonofliberty08 , June 30, 2013 1:10 PM
    comon...... the AMD base mini-ITX box are just like the next gen console ps4 & xbox one that will be in everyone living room, why can't ASUS sense it ? if ASUS keep absence on AMD platform i think i will switch to its brother ASROCK or its competitor MSI.
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    Sedare , July 1, 2013 8:31 AM
    Only thing I would have liked to see asked was how to get the Apple 27" Thunderbolt display working with a discrete card on their TB enabled mobos. I've not been able to find any information on this on their site.
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    danwat1234 , July 1, 2013 5:29 PM
    Didn't answer the meaty Asus G750 laptop questions, such as; Why use a soldered CPU that's not upgradeable when your competitors use the socketed version?
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    Roger Rogers , November 25, 2013 6:58 AM
    danwat1234 commented
    "Didn't answer the meaty Asus G750 laptop questions, such as; Why use a soldered CPU that's not upgradeable when your competitors use the socketed version?"
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    In response, could it be just that if they have it fixed in there is (A) less likelihood of warranty comeback (RMA`s) and (B) Windows 8.1 likes to stick around on one set of hardware and (C) The design can be simpler, and therefore cheaper for the consumer and (D) Asus can sell you an all round faster better equiped laptop in three years or so?