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Summary And Conclusion

AMD: 2D Performance Progress in Windows 7 With Catalyst 10.4?
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Both ATI and Nvidia currently offer their cards with Windows 7 drivers that serve up enough 2D performance for using GDI/GDI+. ATI has almost completely fixed the issues pointed out by our testing with an average performance improvement by almost 100%. This is really a clear answer.

Much of the incoming correspondence from our readers, as well as the positive feedback from some affected software vendors, has confirmed the relevance of our 2D benchmarking. Of course, the typical 3D-focused user hardly runs into the problems we described, so we can understand some of the doubts expressed regarding our findings as well. The reactions of the driver team and the timing of the implementation prove that AMD/ATI, too, has taken this issue more seriously than it initially publicly admitted.

In the end, the solution was developed quickly and the affected software now works without any restrictions. Only the ‘Task Manager paradox’ shown in our test results keep our minds occupied, as we see a great potential for further performance increase here.

Are Other Graphics Cards Affected?

In addition to benchmarks run on the high-end cards, we also performed some random testing with mid-range cards (GeForce GT 240 and Radeon HD 5750). The results are similar enough to those of the high-end cards that we can dismiss the existence of exceptions, and expand our conclusion onto the smaller cards of the current product series.

One Small Restriction

Despite significant improvements made by the ATI driver developers and Nvidia, the two graphics manufacturers are not exactly soiling themselves with glory. The performance level that Windows XP sported in 2D is still very much missing.

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    Anonymous , June 2, 2010 10:13 AM
    Keep doing those 2D testing. It's important for many users.
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    Poisoner , June 2, 2010 7:16 AM
    the greater goodTA152H, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


    What was insane about his post?
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    Onus , June 2, 2010 10:12 AM
    Just because he applied the sarcasm with a mortar rather than a butter knife does not make TA152H's post insane.
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    ta152h , June 2, 2010 6:32 AM
    Well, Microsoft creating an even slower operating system than their previous one is a company tradition. Bloated, slow, buggy software is something they take seriously, and it's not up to companies like AMD or Nvidia to take this privilege from Microsoft. People like it - they keep buying it.

    It's a pity OS/2 never made it. Windows needs real competition. Look what the K8 did to Intel.
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    Anonymous , June 2, 2010 6:45 AM
    Lines, ellipses, and polygons are rarely, if ever, used in window system toolkits from the last 5-7 years. You will likely never see them used other than in specialized benchmarks. They are an API vestige of days long past.
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    Anonymous , June 2, 2010 6:49 AM
    Am I missing something? 10.5 is the most recent
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    Poisoner , June 2, 2010 7:16 AM
    the greater goodTA152H, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


    What was insane about his post?
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    Anonymous , June 2, 2010 7:29 AM
    Does Catalyst 10.5 bring anything new to the table?
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    spidey180 , June 2, 2010 7:35 AM
    Keep up the good work ATI.
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    FUtomNOreg , June 2, 2010 8:41 AM
    Now where did I put that PCMag Winbench CD?????
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    outlw6669 , June 2, 2010 9:26 AM
    Quote:
    Does Catalyst 10.5 bring anything new to the table?

    You can now over/underclock while running multiple displays without tearing on the second monitor....
    Other than that, looks to be just a few minor bug fixes.
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    crazybaldhead , June 2, 2010 9:42 AM
    Yes, this article needs to be updated for 10.5. Also with the newest drivers, my 4870's GPU clock idles at 600 Mhz and not at 450 Mhz like it used to.
    Upping the idle clock frequencies is not a solution to the 2d performance problem, more like a *simple* workaround.
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    Onus , June 2, 2010 10:12 AM
    Just because he applied the sarcasm with a mortar rather than a butter knife does not make TA152H's post insane.
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    Anonymous , June 2, 2010 10:13 AM
    Keep doing those 2D testing. It's important for many users.
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    cushgod , June 2, 2010 12:20 PM
    10.5 Catalyst is out. Is that even better? Maybe a follow up article.
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    juliom , June 2, 2010 12:25 PM
    crazybaldheadYes, this article needs to be updated for 10.5. Also with the newest drivers, my 4870's GPU clock idles at 600 Mhz and not at 450 Mhz like it used to. Upping the idle clock frequencies is not a solution to the 2d performance problem, more like a *simple* workaround.


    Since you don't even know that the 4870 idles at 500 MHz (not 450), double check the 600 MHz you think you saw.
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    invlem , June 2, 2010 12:35 PM
    the greater goodTA152H, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


    ... Now I'm going to have to watch that movie again (Billy Madison)
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    sohei , June 2, 2010 12:51 PM
    competition is good ...bravo ATI
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    misry , June 2, 2010 12:57 PM
    Cushgod10.5 Catalyst is out. Is that even better? Maybe a follow up article.


    While it is only an incremental u/g it is still worth taking. From a practical standpoint, I found 10.4 made the installation of a (no cost) 4350 card to supplant my built-in 4200 chip "worth it". Prior to 10.4 I seemed to get better performance from the 4200. Afterward, while performance remains the same, given a high side margin of error, using the 4350 now notably off-loads tasks from the CPU *and* frees system memory.
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    crazybaldhead , June 2, 2010 2:17 PM
    Quote:
    Since you don't even know that the 4870 idles at 500 MHz (not 450), double check the 600 MHz you think you saw.


    Hate to give in to trolls, but hey, here you go;

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