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Promise NS4300N

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2:00 AM - 02/07/2009 by Marcel Binder

The Promise NS4300N is supplied without hard drives. Online, this NAS housing can be ordered for a price of around $420. When compared to other NAS units with a similar range of functions, this price should be considered comparable.

The NS4300N has four drive bays--the build your own device (BYOD) concept means that users can fit the NAS housing with the storage capacity that meets their specific requirements. The current maximum is 6 TB, made up of four 1.5 TB drives available from Seagate.

Construction

The housing is made of thin plastic

The construction of the NS4300N is good, although the unit does leave room for the opposite impression when unpacked for the first time. The entire housing is made up of a light, thin plastic, which is not very reassuring at first glance. If you compare it to other NAS units, like the QNAP TS-409 Pro, for example, you immediately ask the obvious question: why would Promise want to give the NS4300N a plastic housingĀ ?

If you look a little closer, you will see that the plastic housing is more stable and more accurately constructed than it first appears. The front flap used to cover the drive slots is fixed with a hinge to the left-hand side of the housing, and moves easily. If you are expecting creaks and squeaks, you will be pleasantly surprised.

The same goes for the drive holders, which are also made of plastic. Fears that these might break due to frequent use are unfounded. Inside the unit itself, a metal cage ensures that the drives are seated securely.

The holders for the drives are very stable.The holders are not affected even by extreme loads.

The Package

Promise includes the drive holders with associated screws, a network cable with rubber connector, an RJ-45 network cable, manual, and software CD.

Click an image to see more pictures of the NS4300N.

Talkback
ecka 02/07/2009 11:19 AM
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On the second page:

Quote :The current maximum is 6 GB, made up of four 1.5 TB drives available from Seagate.


I think it should be 6TB

danielkza 02/07/2009 7:13 PM
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Actually it should be 8TB with the introduction of WD's new 2TB drives.

chovav 02/07/2009 9:51 PM
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Can someone explain me why all of these NAS devices are delivering such poor performance over 1GBit LAN? they should be able to get to (more or less) 100MB/s in an uncomplicated raid 0 or such.. is the processor so slow that it can't handle it? not enough cache? what's going on?! :)

russofris 02/07/2009 11:50 PM
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Unfortunately, the article is as light on details of the internal components as Promises' so-called datasgeet at http://www.promise.com/upload/data [...] 080709.pdf

I would really like a thorough investigation of the internals, including the processor (it's a SoC, but which one), controller chip, and underlying OS. I suspect that it is a BSD derivative due to the lack of published source code available on the promise website, though "Billy" from the promise NAS focus group seemd to indicate that it was Linux using a special promise RAID technology (and not LVM or MDRAID)

There are multiple posts on the avsforums regarding the unit. Of the 25 or so pages that I read, I found that the unit is not a stellar performer, and can be purchased for around $300.

Ultimately, it looks as if you're better off purchasing a full featured $200 Atom based platform, tossing in 4 disks, and utilizing linux LVM/MDRAID for a full fledged NAS.

Frank

Sad Panda 02/08/2009 2:40 AM
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Seriously? You want us to pay 420 bucks for a POS that will underperform a standard desktop machine you can put together on Newegg for less?

MicroAtx MOBO with onboard video = $80
Dual Core CPU = $60
2 Gigs of DDR2 800 Ram = $24
Case with 6 HDD slots and 4 external slots = $40
Linux Operating System = $0

Total = $204 aka half the fucking price for more hard drive slots and much more customizable.

Seriously who buys this over-priced NAS shit.

SilentBob999 02/08/2009 4:08 AM
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Many NAS have poor power supply coming with, it will be a good idea to test with high consumption hard drive or at least talk about this fact... I heard about some NAS system of this type that come unstable with 4 1.5TB hard drive...

For people who talking about the price, don't forget that its a Ready-To-Use solution, a lot of people want this type of gadget but doesn't have the technical knowledge require to setup a linux system able to share data over a network with an web interface for configuration....

Anonymous 02/08/2009 4:23 PM
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@sad panda:
So true... not to mention you'd still have enough left over to buy a real RAID card and absolutely blow these things out of the water.

4-port Hardware RAID cards going for under $300 on newegg.

Sad Panda 02/08/2009 6:59 PM
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asdfzxc :
@sad panda:you'd still have enough left over to buy a real RAID card and absolutely blow these things out of the water.4-port Hardware RAID cards going for under $300 on newegg.



What's wrong with getting a MOBO that does RAID for you?

Anonymous 02/09/2009 1:02 AM
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FreeNAS on an ASUS + RAID board. Does all the protocols not just the three mentioned and FTP. Oh boy, hardly call that NAS-centric.
For RAID10 to be worth the effort the minimum you should use is 3 pairs of hdd (didn't see RAID 10 as an option). 6 hdds with 50% redundancy. So if you were to use 2TB drives you would get a max of 6TB storage and 6TB of redundancy.
Want to run a heavy database driven application?
RAID 100 or plaid RAID would be the better one to go for. Many small businesses or startups do this. This product couldn't support that.

$420 can buy you a small form case with a number of designs that house many drive bays, mobo with onboard RAID, Graphics, multiple Gigabit ethernet adapters, good powersupply.

You can then go even further and utilise USB2.0 and throw external USB drives for another layer of data sharing.

All this and more and not stuck with a poorly put together product that limits the imagination because of its short comings.

All that and more from your local computer needs store.

chookman 02/09/2009 1:58 AM
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Im with you sad panda, i just don't get why people buy these when a cheap low power dedicated box is superior in every way.

As for the additional card, a good hardware RAID card will give you a noticeable speed increase over any motherboard controller, provide more features and better security (failure wise). So if you needed speed and had the cash it would be better for sure.

sepuko 02/09/2009 9:03 AM
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I support sad panda's opinion too. And anyway, even if no alternatives were available I still think those commercial NAS boxes are too expensive.
Considering you could get two 1TB drives with the config of sad panda for the price of only the box above it is indeed awful expensive.

Anonymous 02/09/2009 2:37 PM
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Not enabling jumbo frames support, and then saying that it doesn't do well moving large files? All I can say is.... duh.

Anonymous 02/09/2009 3:43 PM
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I support Sad's setup but I think he too left out a decent power supply. A $40 can rarely has a decent PS.

Anonymous 02/09/2009 6:49 PM
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@sadpanda:
It depends on how important performance and reliability are.
FakeRAID can't hold a candle to hardware RAID on either.

I used to use on-board (aka fake) RAID for a while, but a bluescreen during a rebuild toasted my data (restores aren't fun.)

Switched to a 3ware, performance is much better and no worries about the OS killing the array.

Anonymous 02/09/2009 10:28 PM
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FTA:
.."RAID 5 mode were too erratic ... as a result ... not recommend operating .. with a RAID 5 configuration"

This implies that if RAID5 was less erratic you'd recommend it. Who still uses RAID 5 for new NAS/SAN setups? Hasn't anyone heard of write holes or read this: http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=162

THG even warned of this problem (http://www.tomshardware.com/news/RAID-5-Doomed-2009,6525.html) yet they've written countless articles with RAID 5 solutions since then. What gives?

tl;dr: RAID 5 dies with nTB arrays

Anonymous 02/11/2009 11:20 AM
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no mention of it's bundled software like running linux based system with samba or it's user interface. Also, if it include stuffs like ftp server and torrent client.

Bunz_of_Steel 02/13/2009 8:29 PM
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HOme user should use drobo

Anonymous 02/24/2009 1:02 PM
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Well to be honest the NAS unit was not setup right
first you didnt use jumbo frams also you did add in the dlna componet of the unit that sets it up for media streaming.

If you did both of the above you would notice a big diffrence in the preformance and ablities of the unit. I have used this unit for many thing and have found that it is well capable of dealing with heavy loads and media straming.

I suggest you go back and try this again with the corect setup

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