PCI-SIG Talks PCIe 4.0 at Its Developers Conference

Featured speakers at this week's PCI-SIG developer conference included Al Yanes, President and Chairman, and Ramin Neshati, Serial Communications Workgroup Chair. Discussion included talk of PCI Express (PCIe) and new updates to meet the evolving demands of a variety of computing markets from high-performance storage to ultra-thin and light mobile devices. Increased performance and new form factors frame the organization's focus as it delivers new technologies built upon the 20-year legacy of the Peripheral Component Interface (PCI).

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  • loops
    I just need to find a GPU that will fill the lanes.
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  • Pinhedd
    loopsI just need to find a GPU that will fill the lanes.
    Graphics cards may be the most popular PCIe add-in cards but many onboard devices also communicate with the chipset or CPU by PCIe. Onboard peripherals that are added by the motherboard manufacturer such as audio, ethernet, USB 3.0, extra SATA ports, bluetooth, wifi, etc... are often wired up using PCIe links. Newer PCIe generations will allow these devices to provide greater services without increasing the complexity of the motherboard.
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  • the3dsgeek
    i don't know where are they going with this, today's graphic cards performs the same in the old generation PCIe slots, or i don't know, maybe 2-3% difference. First make the hardware that can take advantage of the available bandwidth. Its like putting a car on a 200mph race track when it can only do 100.
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  • rocknrollz
    Its like putting a car on a 200mph race track when it can only do 100.
    Exactly, but what happens when we get the tech to go up to the track? Then we gotta rebuild it all. Better to have it available now, then later.
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  • It's not all about graphics cards. PCIe SSD's will need the bandwidth to keep pushing I/O.
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  • A Bad Day
    For those who say that there's no need for so much bandwidth...

    PCI-E 1.0 had lots of bandwidth during its introduction, but now GPUs saturate it fairly well.

    AGP had lots of bandwidth during its introduction, until it reached a point where OCing it actually improved GPU performance.

    PCI original had lots of bandwidth during its introduction. However, the last GPU that used it today was a modified GTX 520.

    USB 2.0 had lots of bandwidth during its introduction. But today, SSDs require a lot more than two USB 2.0 ports to avoid being bottlenecked.
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  • opmopadop
    I know 'GigaTransfers' is the correct description for PCIe transfer speed, but I miss the old tried-and-true Gigabits-per-second measurement.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transfer_(computing)
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  • do renember this tech would not hit the market until 2016-2017. just look at 4 years ago, saturating a pcie-gen2 seemed impossible. looking foward, high end gpus might start reaching the upper limits of pci-e gen3, (sli and crossfire also present their own issues, as often getting two x16 slots is tough) besides, more lanes will affect other areas, more bandwidth for SATA, usb3 (which someday every port will be native 3.0) thunderbolt.
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  • DRosencraft
    I understand where the3dsgeek is coming from. The problem with building stuff like this so far out into the future sometimes is that it takes what can seem like an eternity for the useful hardware to catch up. Enterprise will love this because they do virtually everything through PCI and can never get it done fast enough. But most people here are consumers, and the consumer sector has limited use for PCIe 3.0 at this point, such that even talking about 4.0 seems at least a little early, if not ridiculous. I mean, if you're an AMD fan, they don't even have a MB with 3.0 on it yet. And the benefit of 3.0 for the latest gen. of GPUs is not that terrific. As for consumer SSDs on PCIe, most don't take full advantage of 2.0, let alone touch 3.0, and are so wildly expensive that few people seem to give a care for them at all.

    It is nice to have these sorts of upgrades planned out, but increasingly we are seeing that they come out farther and farther in advance of any actually useful means of implementation. So, if you're a consumer now, you end up buying hoping that a use will come along now, or you end up paying a premium, even if only slightly, for the sake of having a newer/higher standard that no one will have any meaningful use for. But, 2015 is 3 years away, and the first implementations probably wont be until 2016, so maybe things will change faster than they have been of late.
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  • LOL92
    ssd will do this
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