AT&T Increases Data Cap In Face Of $100 Million FCC Fine

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  • jimmysmitty
    It still feels weird to call a plan "Unlimited" yet to have a cap on the data. Should just call it the "22GB plan then slow as a snail". At least be honest like Verizon which is "XGB then $15 bucks per GB over".
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  • thehritzinator
    If it is in their Terms of Service that the speeds will change after X amount of Data, I really don't see the issue.
    If the consumer agrees to the ToS without reading, any issues are not the fault of the company, but instead the fault of the consumer.
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  • InvalidError
    16638688 said:
    At least be honest like Verizon which is "XGB then $15 bucks per GB over".
    I much prefer "XGB then slow as snails" since you never get bill shock that way and can continue using low-bandwidth applications until the billing month rolls over.
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  • Math Geek
    that's the issue, it really isn't in the TOS. there was no "once you hit xGB, then we throttle you" in there.

    it was advertised as "unlimited high speed data" yet wasn't.

    i pay for 4GB of lte per month, then unlimited "slow as snail" usage after that until the next cycle. i know what i am paying for and know what i am getting. at&t is not as clear there, hence the fcc butting in. i bet now they will be clearer about what they are offering and what customers actually get.

    in the begining when the iphone first came out, unlimited was unlimited. they realized hey could not support it so they went to data caps. we all know it, and understand how the caps work. so to offer "unlimited high speed data" yet have a data cap is not only dishonest but contrary to everything we now know about how our mobile data works.
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  • jimmysmitty
    16638871 said:
    16638688 said:
    At least be honest like Verizon which is "XGB then $15 bucks per GB over".
    I much prefer "XGB then slow as snails" since you never get bill shock that way and can continue using low-bandwidth applications until the billing month rolls over.

    I don't disagree there just that it feels sketchy to say "Unlimited" when it really is oly unlimited to a point then they try to keep you from using it.
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  • InvalidError
    16638904 said:
    I don't disagree there just that it feels sketchy to say "Unlimited" when it really is oly unlimited to a point then they try to keep you from using it.
    They aren't cutting you off outright and they are not charging you extra either. Yes, calling that unlimited might be somewhat of a stretch but it is not strictly untrue either.

    They should simply change the name to "Unmetered" and call it done.
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  • skit75
    We also learned that if you are an ISP, you get to redefine words that have existed in our vernacular for your own marketing shell-game purposes... until you are fined $100 million dollars. Then you re-qualify the same word to mean just little bit more, than before.

    Raise the fine, the point of the FCC's fine, clearly hasn't been received.
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  • Math Geek
    16638977 said:
    We also learned that if you are an ISP, you get to redefine words that have existed in our vernacular for your own marketing shell-game purposes... until you are fined $100 million dollars. Then you re-qualify the same word to mean just little bit more, than before.

    Raise the fine, the point of the FCC's fine, clearly hasn't been received.

    i wish life worked like this for us as it does for these businesses. imagine going to court for murder charges and saying "my fault, did not know stabbing him 58 times was murder. next time i'l only stab him 34 times at most" judge: "oh ok, have a nice day good citizen, i do hope you've learned your lesson on what is right and wrong!!"......
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  • Solandri
    16638901 said:
    in the begining when the iphone first came out, unlimited was unlimited. they realized hey could not support it so they went to data caps. we all know it, and understand how the caps work. so to offer "unlimited high speed data" yet have a data cap is not only dishonest but contrary to everything we now know about how our mobile data works.
    Ahem, I've had a data plan since 2000. Long before the iPhone was even a glimmer in Steve's eye. Contrary to what Apple would have you believe, smartphones and cellular data existed long before the iPhone.

    When they first advertised data plans, speeds were around 10-30 kbps. 1.5 Mbps DSL was the norm, and cable modems offering 5-8 Mbps were starting to show up. So nobody serious about using the Internet would be satisfied with a cell phone data plan. Not to mention you had to unplug the phone from your computer in order to charge it (first combo data+charger cable I saw was in 2004). So the carriers figured it was safe to advertise them as unlimited. I pointed out at the store that that could become a problem when data speeds got faster, but the sales rep shrugged it off since it wasn't his problem.

    When data speeds got fast enough that you could realistically use your phone as your only Internet connection, they first tried to throttle it. That was bad enough on a plan they were selling as "unlimited." But in addition to that, they didn't tell you what the cap was. You'd be using your phone's data, then suddenly with no warning - blammo, you were at dialup speeds. The cable companies tried this too. For years they'd cancel people's service for exceeding a secret monthly bandwidth limit. Kinda like police giving tickets for exceeding a secret speed limit. I'm not sure what they were thinking - trying to intimidate people into lowering their usage even if they weren't near the cap? The whole thing was just ripe for a FTC investigation.

    Now common sense is finally prevailing. Up til now, marketing departments have resisted honest disclosure because they didn't want anything which could be perceived as a negative or a drawback. The companies are finally telling marketing to STFU so they can tell customers up-front what the monthly data cap is, and exactly what happens when you exceed it. AT&T's fine is for not disclosing this throttling to customers on grandfathered unlimited plans.

    (As for throttling an "unlimited" account, there's enough wriggle room in the term "unlimited" because even if you saturated it 24/7, you were still limited by the connection's bandwidth. And the actual bandwidth is determined by how much data other customers use. In other words, "unlimited" does not equal "infinite" and is subject to organic bandwidth limits. In particular, AT&T was fined because rather than throttle only if the tower's bandwidth was saturated, they throttled the moment you passed a GB/mo limit even if the tower had plenty of bandwidth available.)
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  • rawoysters
    16638977 said:
    We also learned that if you are an ISP, you get to redefine words that have existed in our vernacular for your own marketing shell-game purposes... until you are fined $100 million dollars. Then you re-qualify the same word to mean just little bit more, than before.

    Raise the fine, the point of the FCC's fine, clearly hasn't been received.

    i wish life worked like this for us as it does for these businesses. imagine going to court for murder charges and saying "my fault, did not know stabbing him 58 times was murder. next time i'l only stab him 34 times at most" judge: "oh ok, have a nice day good citizen, i do hope you've learned your lesson on what is right and wrong!!"......
    This may be the worst analogy I've ever seen.
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