Google, Samsung Pledge Monthly Security Updates For Their Devices

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  • targetdrone
    Sounds fine and dandy until security updates are blocked by carriers because they want you to buy the latest phone to get the latest OS.

    I'm talking about you T-Mobile.
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  • gangrel
    The point about the customized versions is, by my lights, a huge one. It will be interesting to see how many of the larger handset makers, who do implement custom versions, start promising the same thing. BUT, even if they do, they'll still take longer to push out a fix. If nothing else they have to wait for Google to create the fix, then regression test their own code and make any necessary adaptations.

    Been considering a midrange phone; the new Moto G is probably just about right from my perspective. Still, I've also been waiting to see when the Snapdragon 425 handsets come out; it shouldn't be too far off. BUT, unless there's a new Nexus phone using the 425, or 618/620...it's dollars to donut holes that they'll be custom versions of Android...and thus, have this time-to-fix issue.
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  • JPNpower
    With mobile hardware advancing, I don't see why Android can't do as Windows has done for ages now with easy upgrades to any device.
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  • gangrel
    Android is massively fragmented. Google can do this for stock Android, ergo Nexus and Motorola, and maybe some others. They can't do it for the heavily skinned versions, like Samsung and Sony; the changes Google makes, may break the extensions to the core products that those developers made.

    Now...why can't stock Android improve its update pulls? I believe Windows Update supports both push and pull; Android's "check for updates" looks like a pull request, but Google blocks it. I just tried to get the Stagefright patch for my Nexus 9. It does exist...but the response was "no updates available." THIS is where improvements can be made. Microsoft managed a massive, MASSIVE rollout with Win 10, that I daresay was orders of magnitude larger than the Stagefright patch, in terms of overall bandwidth and server requirements. OK, I can side-load the file...I ultimately did this with Android 5.0 for my Nexus 7...but that requires rooting it, and that's a poor choice.
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  • heffeque
    Sounds fine and dandy until security updates are blocked by carriers because they want you to buy the latest phone to get the latest OS.

    I'm talking about you T-Mobile.
    It's as easy as buying your own phone instead of buying crap-ware riddled T-Mobile phones.
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  • targetdrone
    Sounds fine and dandy until security updates are blocked by carriers because they want you to buy the latest phone to get the latest OS.

    I'm talking about you T-Mobile.
    It's as easy as buying your own phone instead of buying crap-ware riddled T-Mobile phones.

    Who else makes a Galaxy Note that supports all of the T-Mobile LTE bands and doesn't lock the boot loader?
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  • heffeque
    16411880 said:
    Sounds fine and dandy until security updates are blocked by carriers because they want you to buy the latest phone to get the latest OS.

    I'm talking about you T-Mobile.
    It's as easy as buying your own phone instead of buying crap-ware riddled T-Mobile phones.

    Who else makes a Galaxy Note that supports all of the T-Mobile LTE bands and doesn't lock the boot loader?
    Why not buy your own phone and use a cell phone company that uses common international LTE bands? And if the boot loader is locked... unlock it.
    People just love to complicate their lives...
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  • gangrel
    Why not buy your own phone and use a cell phone company that uses common international LTE bands?

    1. Then you're paying full-bore retail. The days of phone subsidies may be coming to an end...but they're not over. The providers didn't give you a discount for BYOD, so you're getting stuck paying the price of the phone, AND the markup built into the plan to pay for the phone subsidy. This argument will probably become moot in a few years as subsidies disappear.

    2. I don't think most phones actually handled that many different bands until fairly recently...and generally, I suspect those are the higher-end phones.

    And if the boot loader is locked... unlock it.

    This voids warranties.

    And you're talking the techno-geek solutions. Joe Q. Salesman doesn't know the difference between CDMA and GSM, and doesn't care about LTE bands. He wants to know: is this going to work where I have to travel? Can it give me my high-speed data? And what about service? If the phone doesn't work...if you got it from your carrier, it's at least theoretically possible to swap it out at their phone store.

    People just love to complicate their lives...

    WRONG. Most people want SIMPLE SOLUTIONS all handed to them. They want to use their phone without thinking about it. What you're suggesting is great for the cognoscenti, but not the plebes. And as always, the latter, in numbers, overwhelmingly dominate.
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  • heffeque
    16421409 said:
    Why not buy your own phone and use a cell phone company that uses common international LTE bands?

    1. Then you're paying full-bore retail. The days of phone subsidies may be coming to an end...but they're not over. The providers didn't give you a discount for BYOD, so you're getting stuck paying the price of the phone, AND the markup built into the plan to pay for the phone subsidy. This argument will probably become moot in a few years as subsidies disappear.

    2. I don't think most phones actually handled that many different bands until fairly recently...and generally, I suspect those are the higher-end phones.

    And if the boot loader is locked... unlock it.

    This voids warranties.

    And you're talking the techno-geek solutions. Joe Q. Salesman doesn't know the difference between CDMA and GSM, and doesn't care about LTE bands. He wants to know: is this going to work where I have to travel? Can it give me my high-speed data? And what about service? If the phone doesn't work...if you got it from your carrier, it's at least theoretically possible to swap it out at their phone store.

    People just love to complicate their lives...

    WRONG. Most people want SIMPLE SOLUTIONS all handed to them. They want to use their phone without thinking about it. What you're suggesting is great for the cognoscenti, but not the plebes. And as always, the latter, in numbers, overwhelmingly dominate.

    1. There are alternatives without subsidies that are cheaper than with subsidies. Perfect for people that have their own phone.

    2. I don't see your point.

    3. My father just bought a Motorola E and got a more or less good deal on the minutes+data (cheaper than with subsidies). No weird solutions.
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  • gangrel
    I'm not saying people *can't* go this route...do your device research, do research on your MVNOs. I'm saying that a lot of people don't want do, at best, and a significant fraction of those would get confused if they tried to work through all the details.
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