Intel Unveils 10th-Gen Core Chips, 10nm Ice Lake, 18% IPC Improvement, Sunny Cove Cores, Gen11 Graphics, Thunderbolt 3

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  • AlistairAB
    So Intel has 18 percent IPC over 4 years, AMD does 15 percent in one year.
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  • southernshark
    Talk about an Intel Fanboy.... This article was definitely written by one.

    "Intel's next gen graphics are well known..." Haha... that's funny stuff. No one has even seen the next gen graphics yet.

    And as for IceLake, unveiling it and shipping CPUs aren't the same thing. I haven't seen any press release about desk top CPUs shipping in 10nm this year.
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  • Yawn. They can keep their overpriced junk. I am so sick of these fanboys writing articles as well
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  • Delicieuxz
    The article says:

    AMD claims that its new third-gen Ryzen products have exceeded Intel's Skylake single-core performance, long the hallmark of Intel's dominating performance, albeit by small 1 to 3% margins

    Though, AMD's 1 - 3% performance single-threaded performance increase compares higher clock-speed Intel chips to lower clock-speed AMD chips. So, AMD's IPC could be more appreciably higher than Intel's.
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  • BaRoMeTrIc
    southernshark said:
    Talk about an Intel Fanboy.... This article was definitely written by one.

    "Intel's next gen graphics are well known..." Haha... that's funny stuff. No one has even seen the next gen graphics yet.

    And as for IceLake, unveiling it and shipping CPUs aren't the same thing. I haven't seen any press release about desk top CPUs shipping in 10nm this year.

    Intel stated they won't ship 10nm desktop and server cpus until 2020
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  • BaRoMeTrIc
    Delicieuxz said:
    The article says:



    Though, AMD's 1 - 3% performance single-threaded performance increase compares higher clock-speed Intel chips to lower clock-speed AMD chips. So, AMD's IPC could be more appreciably higher than Intel's.
    IPC doesn't change with higher frequencies. IPC and Frequency are 2 separate discussions
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  • Math Geek
    they had to do something to keep their fanboys busy until they can actually put out a new chip. some pretty ppt slides should keep them pretending for the next year :)

    but really an 18% increase should just about make up for all the losses due to patches for all the vulnerabilities the chips have. so i'd expect them to stay on par with where they are now overall. of course they'll not apply those patches when testing to make it look better. but hey who's really paying attention anyway.........
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  • kinggremlin
    AlistairAB said:
    So Intel has 18 percent IPC over 4 years, AMD does 15 percent in one year.

    It's easier to improve on a 6 minute mile than it is a 4 minute mile.
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  • ingtar33
    color me highly skeptical on those IPC claims.

    Intel's own IPC hasn't budged a percentage since skylake, yet their ipc graph in this press release claimed steady improvement in IPC thrugh the various skylake refreshes. I think they're playing games with the meaning of IPC again, like how they did when they would release any one of their skylake refreshes with identical ipc and claim massive ipc improvements, which were made by higher core counts and clock speeds, proving forever intel's definition of ipc is different from everyone else's.
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  • jeremyj_83
    kinggremlin said:
    It's easier to improve on a 6 minute mile than it is a 4 minute mile.
    When Zen 1 was launched it had an IPC of Broadwell, which was about 5% less than the Sky Lake architecture. The biggest reason for the wide performance gap between them was Intel's huge clock speed advantage in single threaded applications. Zen+ increased IPC by 3% so now AMD was within 2% clock for clock with Intel. With Zen 2 we are getting a 15% IPC boost so AMD will have a 10-12% performance advantage over Intel at the same clock speed, or about 1-3% in ST with both CPUs at max boost. Saying that AMD was doing a 6min miles isn't correct at all, it was more like a 4:15 mile that they improved to a 3:45 mile in 2 years, where as Intel was at a 4 mile and moved to a 3:42 mile in 4 years. Now don't forget that Intel isn't releasing Ice Lake to the desktop until sometime in 2020. When you look at the top end GHz it maxes out at 4.1GHz whereas the i7-8665U hits 4.8GHz which means Intel is having a very hard time increasing the clock speed on the CPU. That is why they aren't releasing it on the desktop since it won't be able to clock high enough right now to beat their current i9-9900K.
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