Intel Nova Lake specs leaked — Up to 52 cores and 150W of TDP for Intel's AMD Zen 6 rival

Core Ultra 200S
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Intel boasts some of the best CPUs available, yet an even better product is coming. Hardware leaker chi11eddog, known for his solid track record, has disclosed what are rumored to be the specifications for Intel's next-generation Nova Lake desktop processors, which are expected to succeed the Core Ultra 200S (codenamed Arrow Lake) series.

Nova Lake, potentially branded as Core Ultra 300S, differs significantly from Arrow Lake. While Arrow Lake is built with Lion Cove P-cores and Skymont E-cores, Nova Lake is expected to use cutting-edge Coyote Cove P-cores along with Arctic Wolf E-cores. Intel is shaking things up with Nova Lake, reportedly launching its LPE-cores on desktops for the first time. We were first introduced to LPE-cores in Intel's mobile Core Ultra Series 1 (codenamed Meteor Lake) processors.

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  • Notton
    I would love to see the cache size in the product stack.
    Core count and clock speed is only part of what makes a good CPU.
    Part of the reason Ryzen 7 9800X3D performs so well in games, while Core 5 and 7 do not is their cache size.
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  • Neilbob
    Looking very hard at that comparison table.
    Seeing the 285K.
    Wondering when they gave it 16 P-cores...
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  • Thunder64
    Neilbob said:
    Looking very hard at that comparison table.
    Seeing the 285K.
    Wondering when they gave it 16 P-cores...

    Didn't you see the note?

    *Specifications are unconfirmed.
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  • TerryLaze
    Notton said:
    I would love to see the cache size in the product stack.
    Core count and clock speed is only part of what makes a good CPU.
    Part of the reason Ryzen 7 9800X3D performs so well in games, while Core 5 and 7 do not is their cache size.
    Yeah but it's also how you destroy your sales so intel won't do anything like the x3d.

    But if all of the e cores and p cores are still on the same chiplet, then the sheer number of cores will mean a decently higher amount of cache available, just nowhere near x3d.
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  • Neilbob
    Thunder64 said:
    Didn't you see the note?
    Whoops, silly me, thinking the 285K was a known quantity! :D

    Also, I noticed it got fixed already. Ah well, it was fun while it lasted.
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  • thestryker
    Notton said:
    I would love to see the cache size in the product stack.
    I'd be surprised if it was much of a divergence from current designs. I think the biggest question would be how the L3 cache functions on the top two SKUs since those are purported to use two Compute Tiles. All of the multi-die Xeon parts have used EMIB, but to my knowledge no consumer parts have utilized it. If ARL is any indication using Foveros for this likely wouldn't be viable for shared L3.

    If we assume L3 cache doesn't drop from the last two generations and the Compute Tiles behave as a single unit that would put the top SKU at minimum 72MB.
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  • ingtar33
    so if i read this right, they're downgrading the E cores to the mobile version of the E core in order to save on power, so they can up the P core count because, you know, they did away with hyperthreading so they need more physical cores to perform, and likely need to figure out how to clock it up without blowing up the ringbus like they did with the 14000 chips.

    I guarantee the upped core count is real. because all of intel's marketting will claim something like a 50% boost in multithread performance, all obtained with a 70% boost in core count. this has been intel's MO for years now. up the core count, claim higher performance, while pretending it's an apple to apples comparison when in reality it's an apples to oranges comparison and means nothing.

    still if they can give all those core at the same price as their current flagship, that will be a tremendous value to someone out there. it's not like the E cores are trash. and when you pool enough together you get some very good results. i just hope this doesn't come with the burnt out ringbus problem they had before.
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  • thestryker
    ingtar33 said:
    so if i read this right, they're downgrading the E cores to the mobile version of the E core in order to save on power, so they can up the P core count because, you know, they did away with hyperthreading so they need more physical cores to perform, and likely need to figure out how to clock it up without blowing up the ringbus like they did with the 14000 chips.
    You are not reading it right. According to current leaks NVL-S uses 8P/16E Compute Tiles just like ARL-S with the Ultra 7/9 having two Compute Tiles. They are also supposed to have 4 LPE cores in the SoC tile like the mobile parts have had.

    Preliminary silicon configs are:
    52 (16+32+4)
    28 (8+16+4)
    16 (4+8+4)

    https://nitter.poast.org/jaykihn0/status/1887830497964769515#m
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  • acadia11
    Ok we see you Intel it’s about time you started innovating.
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  • thestryker
    Was thinking some more about the configurations and additional details from Jaykihn.

    The 9950X (16c/32t) and 285K (8P/16E/24t) are largely the same (ignoring outliers) outside of gaming. Should the scaling of Zen 6 and NVL be similar and AMD moves to 12 core CCDs a dual CCD configuration (24c/48t) wouldn't be able to keep up with the full 2 Compute Tile (16P/32E/48t) NVL configuration.

    Another oddity is the PCIe configuration being reported. 32x PCIe 5.0/16x PCIe 4.0 (PCIe 5.0 x4 DMI) seems like a really odd choice if it's the entire stack and not just the Ultra 7/9. ARL has 20x PCIe 5.0/4x PCIe 4.0 (PCIe 4.0 x8 DMI) though it does also have 2 Thunderbolt ports built in which can run PCIe 4.0. Even if some of those reported PCIe 4.0 lanes are being used for connectivity it's significantly more than we've seen on a client part. Assuming there are PCIe 5.0 M.2 slots that means two full x16 slots aren't necessarily available despite 32 lanes.
    edit: Jaykihn released the platform information and with PCIe 5.0 lanes being available off the chipset it's unfortunate they didn't maintain 8 lanes the current ones have when upgrading to PCIe 5.0 DMI:
    24 PCIe 5.0 lanes
    4 PCIe 5.0 DMI lanes
    16 PCIe 4.0 chipset lanes
    8 PCIe 5.0 chipset lanes

    https://nitter.poast.org/jaykihn0/status/1934778035611554165#m
    Intel would also be enabling a 4/4/4/4 PCIe split for what I believe is the first time in a client platform.

    If the connectivity is just the top two SKUs and the theoretical CPU performance are on point I could almost see this as somewhat of a return of HEDT minus the memory bus. If course this would also likely mean the Ultra 9 would be $800-1000.
    If the performance scales like current Intel and AMD CPUs I could easily see the Ultra 9 going for $800-1000.
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