Intel Lakefield 3D Foveros Hybrid Processors: Hot Chips 31 Live Coverage

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  • mitch074
    Ooooh... So, Intel reinvented big.LITTLE and confuses 2.5D and 3D ("real" 3D stacking would have tridimensional circuits; here you have layers that communicate with one another, so 2.5D). Awesome indeed.

    Meanwhile, ARM already moved to DynamIQ.
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  • nufelevas
    This is aimed only at the arduino/arm/phone/atom market, or also at the desktop PC?
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  • hannibal
    Eventually to PC too. Amd is Also planning stacked cpus... when remains to be seing.
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  • exroofer
    Soooo..... is this a 1 core, or a 5 core or.........
    So they then put 6 or 8 or w/e of these on one chip?
    Because THAT would be interesting.
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  • bit_user
    nufelevas said:
    This is aimed only at the arduino/arm/phone/atom market, or also at the desktop PC?
    I'd have thought it would be fairly low-end stuff. But, that 64 EU GPU says otherwise.

    So, basically, ultra-thin laptops and 2-in-1 convertibles. Not desktops, though.
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  • bit_user
    How much DRAM gets stacked in-package? That doesn't seem big enough to be all of the system's memory...

    Edit: I'm reading 4 - 8 GB. So, yeah, that's probably all of it.
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  • Growle
    May be a good thing for future gaming consoles, "extra-small" form factor PCs, and smart pillows.

    I like the sound of Tiny Form Factor though.
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  • JayNor
    Is that LTE chip from Intel?
    There are reports that this chip is being used in Microsoft's Centaurus. It appears to be a foldable notepad 2 in 1. I'd rather use something like that than a cellphone ... seems more useful to me. I wonder does the Apple deal prevent Intel from putting their LTE chips in this format.
    https://www.extremetech.com/computing/293787-microsofts-dual-screen-surface-could-launch-in-2020-run-android-apps
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  • bit_user
    Growle said:
    May be a good thing for future gaming consoles, "extra-small" form factor PCs, and smart pillows.

    I like the sound of Tiny Form Factor though.
    As I'm sure you know, smaller can sometimes mean more expensive, like how Apple's Airtops are more expensive than their baseline Macbooks.

    It seems pretty clear to me that this is not going to be their cheapest SoC part. I don't expect to see it in Chromebooks (other than maybe a couple higher-end models), for instance.

    And it's definitely not for gaming consoles, other than maybe portable ones like Nintendo Switch.

    If you were building a PC (or even a NUC), there's no good reason to use such a highly-integrated, low-power product, especially having only one "fast" core.
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  • GetSmart
    bit_user said:
    It seems pretty clear to me that this is not going to be their cheapest SoC part. I don't expect to see it in Chromebooks (other than maybe a couple higher-end models), for instance.
    Well, some Chromebooks also featured more expensive Intel's mobile Core SoCs (not just cheaper SoCs from Intel's Atom lineage), thus would not count that out either.
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