China's Tsinghua Threatens To Disrupt Semiconductor Industry, Building $30 Billion DRAM And NAND Fab

 

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  • Nintendork
    The greed of the status-quo is making China smile.
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  • Urzu1000
    I'm tired and I could be misunderstanding something here. If we're facing NAND shortages, isn't it a good thing that the output increases? It will probably harm the companies' profit margins, but having an overabundance of materials would drive down the price for consumers. It could also open markets for competitors in the storage segment that were unable to get a foot in the door before - thereby spurring competition through innovation.
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  • dudmont
    Without full privatisation, this venture will never be as efficient or successful as a private business. May it lower the prices for all of us.
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  • erendofe
    the concern is, as a state owned company, the government can prop it financially and use as a pawn to disrupt the industry by later flooding the market. This tactic would be very damaging to competition and if enough competitors were to go under china would have a strangle hold on Dram and Nand. it would be a quiet subtle war fought with commerce instead of guns.
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  • mitch074
    You don't know how business works in China - if it is state owned, then there is no tariff, it is impervious to trials and has facilitated access to cash. So its products will be cheaper than the compétition,which will make it desirable for all products manufactured in China - including, say, the iPhone 10...
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  • anbello262
    Well, this seems like mainly good news, at least from a consumer point of view.
    It is only slightly worrying for the US economy, maybe, so I guess it's mostly good news for non-US consumers.
    Of course, I don't have the political/economical background necessary to fully apreciate the possible effects of this.
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  • zodiacfml
    I feel sorry for Seagate. If this happens, NAND or SSD will become even cheaper. It will make little sense in the enterprise to stay with HDDs while the consumer/mainstream will get by with low capacity drives
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  • bit_user
    I think we all knew it was just a matter of time.
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  • bit_user
    19199108 said:
    isn't it a good thing that the output increases?
    It's a matter of who gets it, and at what price. Don't assume they're bound to sell it to everyone, or that all buyers will pay the same.

    19199119 said:
    Without full privatisation, this venture will never be as efficient or successful as a private business.
    I don't know that state ownership has the same downsides in China as it might, elsewhere. The State is probably very strategic about where, when, and how it decides to profit off its enterprises.

    19199370 said:
    Well, this seems like mainly good news, at least from a consumer point of view.
    In the long term, if they can drive enough competition out of business (through short-term state subsidies), then prices for consumers might actually end up higher.

    See also: monopoly
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  • dudmont
    state ownership is state ownership is state ownership..... in the history of mankind, it's always meant the same thing and had the same results. best example I can give you is state owned oil companies.
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