Class-Action Lawsuit Against Seagate Built On Questionable Backblaze Reliability Report

The Hagens Berman law firm is filing a class action lawsuit against Seagate that, for now, lists one plaintiff. The lawsuit contends that Christopher Nelson, a natural person and citizen of South Dakota, purchased a Seagate Barracuda 3 TB HDD and a Seagate Backup Plus 3 TB HDD in October 2011, and summarily both HDDs died and Seagate replaced them with inherently faulty products. The lawsuit also states that Seagate's hard drives failed to live up to the advertised promises, in violation of federal consumer laws and Seagate's own warranties, after delivering faulty replacement drives. 

Perhaps most interestingly, the lawsuit cites the Backblaze reliability reports as proof that the units were faulty (only the 3 TB Barracuda models).

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  • lhsbrandon
    I can tell you from my own experience that Seagate drives do in fact have poor reliability. I work in a school with hundreds of computers and I have had many Seagate drives fail especially laptop ones. I had a new hybrid drive of theirs fail after 2 months of use.
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  • amk-aka-Phantom
    It was almost universally agreed a long time ago that Seagate's excuse of their drives failing due to "not being designed" for these workloads is rubbish. It doesn't matter what tech they allegedly lacked, competitors' drives of the same tier and pricing turned out to be more reliable, and that's all a buyer needs to know.

    Backblaze's testing was great precisely because it wasn't aiming to mask the drives' faults by some artificial "workload intentions" - they took the drives, trashed them with heavy workloads and saw which came out in top. Should we also stop paying attention to SSD reliability benchmarks or the Skylake Prime95 bug or proper cooling because "typical consumer workloads" will not trigger any of these issues?
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  • koga73
    Seagate aquired Maxtor... that should say something about their reliability. Personally I have never had much luck with Seagate nor Maxtor. Now I only buy WesternDigital and have had virtually no problems.
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  • SinxarKnights
    I don't see how they have a case. Unless they got proof the drives are defective/damaged when it comes off the assembly line as with the 7200.9/10 drive debacle.

    It is impossible to say where the actual failure point is, if I had to guess I would say almost all of them are damaged in shipping, mishandling by resellers or misuse by the end consumers.
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  • Ghan_04
    I'm not sure that this is lawsuit-worthy, but I can say that I have been burned by Seagate drives in the past. I used 3 x 3 TB Barracudas + 1 spare in a NAS, and boy am I glad I had a hot spare. I had one drive fail followed by another shortly after the RAID had rebuilt. I have since switched to 4 TB HGST drives at the recommendation of the BackBlaze report and haven't had an issue yet. I've been running the HGSTs quite a bit longer than the Seagates already as well.
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  • PaulyAlcorn
    It was almost universally agreed a long time ago that Seagate's excuse of their drives failing due to "not being designed" for these workloads is rubbish. It doesn't matter what tech they allegedly lacked, competitors' drives of the same tier and pricing turned out to be more reliable, and that's all a buyer needs to know.

    It isn't only the workload, which is beyond the scope of the warranty, it is also about the method of connection. I have tried in vain to find the spec that states what amount of weight can be placed upon a SATA connector, and then vibrated for a few years, without failure. That is precisely the scenario these drives are placed into.

    Unfortunately, the standards committee's that I have spoken to on the issue are unable to provide an answer - as this is not within the design of the connector. It is not designed to do it, period.

    The SATA connector is not an acceptable means of mounting your HDD. That is what the fastener mounts are for.

    There is virtually no way to know which drives were installed into which revision of the chassis, of which there have been five. This obfuscates the results to the point of being what they are; by and large, useless.
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  • Nexxterra
    All hard drives fail, Since 2007 we have used Seagate almost exclusively in all our servers (at times up to 40 servers) and I can say that I sleep way better knowing I have chosen Seagate!
    Of course, that said... Every drive we have that fails is a Seagate!
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  • Nashten
    I had a Seagate HDD, a 2TB Barracuda model. It failed 3 times within its warranty period. I purchased it, then 3 weeks later, the motor in it started to go and it made a really loud buzzing. The second time some 5 months after the replacement, the motor started to fail again, then it stopped responding altogether. The final time it failed 8 months later, the motor (surprise!) started buzzing and it got slower and slower until it didn't respond.

    I have 2 Western Digital Black drives, 1TB models, in the same computer since 2009! And they're still running and performing well! (They are FAEX models.)

    I left the Seagate in my drawer and just got a WD 2TB after. No problems at all, after 2 years.
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  • aqw409
    I have a 3tb seagate drive in my computer I use for my steam library and backups. (of many backup sites) and I haven't had the drive fail on my once. Its been in constant use for almost 4 years straight. I have however had 2 WD drives both 2 tb fail on me for no reason. And I don't have a preference like most people towards my parts as long as the company is known. Just saying.
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  • PaulyAlcorn
    17434354 said:
    All hard drives fail

    Well said. There is an expiration date on every single storage device created in the history of mankind, be it a cave wall, papyrus, or tape - we just don't know when it is :)

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