Tech Companies Plan To Fight For Net Neutrality (Again) On July 12 (Updated)

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Nathaniel Mott
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  • Urzu1000
    I don't see Tom's Hardware listed on the notable participants page.

    https://www.battleforthenet.com/july12/#participants
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  • shrapnel_indie
    Loosely defined, net neutrality is the idea that internet service providers (ISPs) shouldn't be able to discriminate between data sources. The go-to example is the threat of tiered internet packages that would require you to pay extra for access to streaming services like Netflix, Hulu, and so on. Other worries include the potential for premium lanes, which would see ISPs charge high-traffic companies for speedy data delivery to their customers, and giving ISP-offered services a leg up on the competition by offering free access to them or boosting their data transfer speeds.

    Put another way: a byte is a byte is a byte, and expecting people to pay more for data simply because it comes from a particular source defies the idea of the open Web.

    Loosely defined. yes, this is good. But... the devil is in the details. Before we agree and jump on any "net neutrality" rules, guidelines, laws, etc, we should look closely at the language used. Look closely at any addendum attached., everything about it. What may appear to be net neutrality may ultimately contain things that undermine the premise of the rules or outright make it mean something the summary does not imply. This actually is a good idea for whatever bill, rules, regulations, etc may come up. It's part of a good democratic view, where you can express to your representatives (who may do as they please anyway, which is a problem you can try to remedy on election day) what you think about it and anything else added to it. Of course it can't be "You got to vote on it before you can see what it says and is" as that defeats any transparency. If these representatives of ours are as transparent as they claim, as in our corner as they preach throughout their (re)election campaigns, they should have no qualms as letting us see the actual legislation, rules, etc they will vote on, unaltered and verbatim.

    What do we have pay, for their version of net neutrality, vs the version of net neutrality they sell us?
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  • JonDol
    19921873 said:
    I don't see Tom's Hardware listed on the notable participants page.

    https://www.battleforthenet.com/july12/#participants

    Maybe because it's not a notable participant? Not under their criteria anyways.
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  • JonDol
    Everyone should be with this action. If snooping on peoples data traffic is not stopped once for all, other countries could see their net neutrality harmed as well.
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  • shrapnel_indie
    19922018 said:
    Everyone should be with this action. If snooping on peoples data traffic is not stopped once for all, other countries could see their net neutrality harmed as well.

    Did it really stop snooping on peoples data traffic? What did the complete unaltered rules say?
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  • theyeti87
    "I'm sorry. The domain you are trying to access is not within your Internet Plan. Please upgrade your current Internet Plan to access the website."
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  • bit_user
    19922103 said:
    19922018 said:
    Everyone should be with this action. If snooping on peoples data traffic is not stopped once for all, other countries could see their net neutrality harmed as well.
    Did it really stop snooping on peoples data traffic?
    Yeah, I'm pretty sure snooping was covered under a separate FCC rule that was recently struck down before it went into effect.

    It was a good rule, but separate from NN.
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  • gnarly_90
    We already have tiered access packages. What we don't have is an effictive way for the ISP's to charge back to the companies riding on their consumer focused access packages. There is a reason the big iNet services companies (Facebook, google MSFT etc) want this, and its not because its good for you. They don't want to be charged back by ISP's for delivering their content to the end user. They only want to pay for circuits that leave their DC's and trunk to the local PAIX. Please don't fall for the false altruistic premise here folks.
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  • bit_user
    19923779 said:
    What we don't have is an effictive way for the ISP's to charge back to the companies riding on their consumer focused access packages.
    It's like saying my electric company should have a way of charging LG for "riding on" my consumer electricity delivery to power my LG TV. They're not "riding on" my internet, it's me using my internet to access the the products and services I want.


    And what consumers use should be paid for by them in a clear and direct way, so that promotions, subsidies, and extra fees can't be used by ISPs to distort the marketplace.
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  • coolitic
    While the *idea* of "net neutrality" is great, I am quite uncomfortable with this implementation as it gives the FCC more power and they don't have a good track record for going against monopolies.
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