Verizon, The Unintended Catalyst Of Strong Net Neutrality Laws (Op Ed)

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  • yoji
    I don't understand.. Verizon don't have a leg to stand on?
    If (for example) they sell 50Mbps to their customers.. how can they complain if their customers want to use services that use all of that? What they seem to be doing.. is selling it at 50Mbps and then complaining that they need throttle.. as they can only cope with 30Mbps? So they oversold? how is that our problem?
    So with net neutrality.. they cant throttle and so they cant oversell.. and so people can really see who can deliver on the services they sell an hold providers to account accordingly.
    Or have I misunderstood?
    Cheers

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  • Craig Herberg
    It seems carriers want to charge twice for the same bandwidth: Once for your 50Mbs service plan, and again when you actually use it -- for example when you stream Netflix content. Of course, they only want to throttle -- or charge extra for using -- competing services. Craig Herberg
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  • sykozis
    Verizon sells 50Mbps service. You can use that full 50Mbps service. They just want complete control over what you can use that 50Mbps service for. They also want the ability to charge content providers (such as Netflix) for your ability to access their content.
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  • skit75
    They also would like to continue to snoop on the bandwidth packets you are using to see if they offer a similar service/app and then funnel their advertising at you while throttling the competitor.
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  • alextheblue
    They also want the ability to charge content providers (such as Netflix) for your ability to access their content.
    It seems carriers want to charge twice for the same bandwidth

    No. They only charge Netflix to host Netflix on Verizon's network. That's what the agreements were really all about. Netflix was having problems with Cogent and they either chose to ignore this fact and blame ISPs, or they were too stupid to realize that Cogent was actually throttling them during peak hours.

    Verizon and Comcast were blamed, when the fault really lay with Netflix and Cogent.

    What's really hilarious about this? If net neutrality passes the ISPs lose control over their own networks. When they become flooded by ever-increasing HD video streaming, it means they can't throttle Netflix et al and so other higher-priority traffic suffers. Real-time gaming packets? Oh treat them the same as email or Netflix packets. Yet many ignorant Americans think Net Neutrality is some kind wonderful panacea to a problem that never really existed in the first place!
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  • alextheblue
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrydownes/2014/11/25/how-netflix-poisoned-the-net-neutrality-debate/
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  • computertech82
    Sad there are brain deads against net neutraility. Like it's ok for internet providers to overcharge or even BLOCK you from websites!!!!!!!!
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  • Brandon Burkett
    @Alextheblue
    I'm guessing your either an ISP Shill or just flat out ignorant. Packet Shaping is NOT equal to Packet Blocking or Packet Discrimination. Real time, in-order packet delivery, QOS or time sensitive packet prioritization is not what Net Neutrality is, troll. ISP's must treat each packet equal, with no preference to their own service and allow any packet in or out as required by law. Net Neutrality prevents ISP's from screwing you over and leads to a full open internet.

    At no time has this ever been about anything less. Your VOIP calls will still be fine, your gaming packets will be fine, and your Netflix will be fine, troll, all at the same time. Nice try, though.
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  • JD88
    Saying companies like Verizon should be able to throttle some data in favor of "high priority" data when the network becomes overloaded is nonsense. If the network is saturated, they need to stop advertising for new customers or (gasp!) actually spend some of that fat profit on infrastructure.
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  • yoji
    15235005 said:
    They also want the ability to charge content providers (such as Netflix) for your ability to access their content.
    It seems carriers want to charge twice for the same bandwidth

    No. They only charge Netflix to host Netflix on Verizon's network. That's what the agreements were really all about. Netflix was having problems with Cogent and they either chose to ignore this fact and blame ISPs, or they were too stupid to realize that Cogent was actually throttling them during peak hours.

    Verizon and Comcast were blamed, when the fault really lay with Netflix and Cogent.

    What's really hilarious about this? If net neutrality passes the ISPs lose control over their own networks. When they become flooded by ever-increasing HD video streaming, it means they can't throttle Netflix et al and so other higher-priority traffic suffers. Real-time gaming packets? Oh treat them the same as email or Netflix packets. Yet many ignorant Americans think Net Neutrality is some kind wonderful panacea to a problem that never really existed in the first place!

    Seriously? How is that debate? It sound simple to me .... customer complains = "sorry, you paying for a 10Mbps service and you trying use Netflix at same time as you trying to use FPS shooters.. you don't have bandwidth.. would you like to upgrade?"
    May be at that point you begin to see differentiation in service.. Verizin gives customer ability to prioritize service X over Y.. that's a positive customer option and wins them brownie points and customers
    THEM choosing how YOUR bandwidth is prioritised is a complete non starter,
    Just MHO.
    Cheers

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