AMD takes CPU market share from Intel in desktops and servers, but Intel fights back in laptops

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Anton Shilov is a contributing writer at Tom’s Hardware. Over the past couple of decades, he has covered everything from CPUs and GPUs to supercomputers and from modern process technologies and latest fab tools to high-tech industry trends.

  • hotaru251
    honestly I can't see a future where Intel takes back server...they just havent been able to keep up w/ epyc at price or performance.

    not surprised at laptop share being intels thign though (for every amd laptop you see theres liek 4 other intel)
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  • Jimbojan
    Intel is about to gain share in every market as its technology is getting ahead of TSMC, ( so, it will be ahead of AMD since AMD relies on TSMC for its fab). As Intel's Ultra Cores are ahead already, so will its Server market. Although Intel is investing a large sum of Capex now, it will not show any profit until it produces its own chip, Intel is still using TSMC as a foundry for a significant portion of its production.
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  • Neilbob
    Jimbojan said:
    Some kind of nonsense.
    I'm surprised this old record isn't completely broken at this point, but keep on playing it; one day the needle might hopefully slip into the groove and stay there for at least a full rotation.
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  • kealii123
    haha are all these comments AI generated
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  • Notton
    I am hearing laptops might see AMD take a larger share this year.
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  • thestryker
    The improvement in the server market is unsurprising as the groundwork was set with Zen 2 when they offered much more compute density, and they still do. It would however take a lot of Intel falling flat on their faces to actually surpass them. I imagine it will be other architectures/semi/custom that slowly push both AMD and Intel down in the server market. Intel is already reacting to Apple/Arm in the laptop market and it will be interesting to see what AMD actually delivers given all of the rumors.
    hotaru251 said:
    honestly I can't see a future where Intel takes back server...they just havent been able to keep up w/ epyc at price or performance.

    not surprised at laptop share being intels thign though (for every amd laptop you see theres liek 4 other intel)
    I sure hope you noticed that AMD hasn't broken 25% of any market in unit share, and they have a bigger chunk of server revenue than unit which means they're actually charging a premium.
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  • redgarl
    Jimbojan said:
    Intel is about to gain share in every market as its technology is getting ahead of TSMC, ( so, it will be ahead of AMD since AMD relies on TSMC for its fab). As Intel's Ultra Cores are ahead already, so will its Server market. Although Intel is investing a large sum of Capex now, it will not show any profit until it produces its own chip, Intel is still using TSMC as a foundry for a significant portion of its production.
    Intel is dead. They are in a death spiral lead by their insanity to pursue fab business. They will never dethrone TSMC and now they are wasting money to this fool journey while AMD has never had so much money to execute their roadmap.

    The last bastion of Intel is mobile because of their monopolistic behaviors.
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  • ingtar33
    hotaru251 said:
    honestly I can't see a future where Intel takes back server...they just havent been able to keep up w/ epyc at price or performance.

    not surprised at laptop share being intels thign though (for every amd laptop you see theres liek 4 other intel)
    agreed. we're looking into a half million dollar upgrade project to a server room at one of our locations with the company i work with, we can't see any reason to go with intel at this time for that project. they're not even remotely competitive right now. I can get an epyc server chip from AMD with x2 the cores at the same power draw and higher clocks (and significantly more processing power per core).

    Assuming this project goes well the rest of the company will be following suit.
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  • hotaru251
    thestryker said:
    e hope you noticed that AMD hasn't broken 25% of any market in unit share, and they have a bigger chunk of server revenue than unit which means they're actually charging a premium.
    yes, but again prior to 7yrs ago that was unthinkable.
    i mean AMD didn't break even 10% until like what 2021? Thats an incredible gain in the time frame given it was a place intel literally dominated for ages.

    which ever "best" CPU side is will ofc charge premium (as again thats the crown reward for being the best)...nothing wrong with that.
    Issue is even if Intel tries to sell cheaper (since they lack performance of rival)....the performance just isnt even worth the savings. (about only reason you would pick intel atm is if you have something in your chain that requires intel cpu's perks which would be due to past choices)

    Intel honestly should do what AMD did and focus less on immediate payoff and work towards a few yrs and flip tables. (they have the people, talent, & $ to do so) Costs in short term but the payout is you are no longer always playing catch up and still not be competitive.
    Intel's current best Xeon came out a yr after amd's and cost more and had less performance. that was a facepalm moment they shouldnt of ever done. you dont charge more for less.

    bite bullet, take the L, focus work towards a product you can be proud of sooner than focusing on a product that is doa against competition & then take back market share ratehr than wasting resources.
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  • thestryker
    hotaru251 said:
    Intel's current best Xeon came out a yr after amd's and cost more and had less performance. that was a facepalm moment they shouldnt of ever done. you dont charge more for less.

    bite bullet, take the L, focus work towards a product you can be proud of sooner than focusing on a product that is doa against competition & then take back market share ratehr than wasting resources.
    They can't afford to do that lest they lose the massive amount of marketshare they still have. You can call it wasted resources, but they're still moving a lot more than AMD is. You don't just bail on that and tell your customers to wait as they might as well just tell everyone to go to the competition then they will have lost the market entirely.
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