AMD's Ryzen 7 9800X3D: Alleged specs and launch timeframe leak
Allegedly the new chips will launch in early November
Two new leaks from posts at Bilibili and Chiphell (as found by @9950pro) reveal possible specifications of AMD's forthcoming eight-core Ryzen 7 9800X3D processor with 3D V-Cache as well as its launch timeframe. If the information is accurate, then the new CPU will sustain an up to 5.2 GHz frequency under loads and will be released in about a month's time.
AMD's Ryzen 9000X3D family of processors with 64 MB of 3D V-Cache is expected to consist of three models: the 16-core Ryzen 9 9950X3D, the 12-core Ryzen 9 9900X3D, and the eight-core Ryzen 7 9800X3D. The latter is expected to be a gamer's dream processor as it combines high single-thread performance, enough cores for most games, and a moderate price.
If the leak from a Bilibili user is to be believed, then the eight-core Ryzen 7 9800X3D has a default frequency of 4.7 GHz, but can sustain 5.2 GHz across all cores under a rather high load generated by the Cinebench R24 benchmark. We do not know whether we are dealing with an engineering sample, or the final version of the CPU, just like we do not know what kind of cooler was used, so 5.2 GHz may be an optimistic result.
As for launch window, the post at Chiphell claims that an AMD employee said that the Ryzen 7 9800X3D will be release on November 1 – 5, 2024. November 1 is Friday and while we can expect pre-orders to start on Friday, AMD tends to start actual sales in the middle of the week, so November 5 looks more logical, if the information is actually correct to any degree. Also, it is possible that AMD plans to start shipments of its Ryzen 9000X3D processors to its partners in early November, so actual launch window will be later.
Although it is clear that AMD's Ryzen 9000-series processors with 3D V-Cache are incoming, the company yet has to disclose their actual specifications as well as launch timeframe officially, so take the leaks with an appropriate amount of salt.
AMD released its Ryzen 7000X3D processors in March – April, 2023, about six months after it launched its Zen 4-based Ryzen 7000 processors in October, 2022. Back then the competition with Intel was already pretty intense and the company had just launched its AM5 platform that was yet to demonstrate a clear advantage over AM4 platform with Zen 3-based CPUs. Today, the situation is a bit different: Zen 5-based Ryzen 9000-series processors demonstrate mediocre advantage over predecessors when it comes to games, so AMD may be more inclined to roll out Ryzen 9000X3D units earlier rather than later to cater to needs of gamers. But, this is still just speculation until we get official news and hands on with the chips.
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gg83 I guess we'll see. I doubt it would makes sense to upgrade from the 7800x3d. Upgrading the 7800xt videocard would be better?Reply -
Nikolay Mihaylov
No, it doesn't make snese. And why should anyone? Which game does the 7800X3D choke on so badly, that would require a new CPU?gg83 said:I guess we'll see. I doubt it would makes sense to upgrade from the 7800x3d. Upgrading the 7800xt videocard would be better?
Zen 4 owners should upgrade to Zen 5 only if moving up a tier, i.e. non-X3D to X3D or single CCD to dual CCD. Otherwise it's money down the drain. -
usertests The amazing part is that the 7800X3D will already top the Arrow Lake charts AMD wants to top.Reply
9950X = 4.3 GHz base, 5.7 GHz boost (170W)
9800X3D = 4.7 GHz base, >5.2 boost (one core)???
9700X = 3.8 GHz base, 5.5 boost (65W)
7800X3D = 4.2 GHz base, 5.0 boost (120W)
7700X = 4.5 GHz base, 5.4 boost (105W)
^If the 9800X3D is doing 5.2 GHz all-core, then maybe it has a higher boost than that for one core, such as 5.5-5.7 GHz.
Seems likely they will slap a 105 or 120W TDP on the 9800X3D, and make it the savior of the lineup, especially if it can clock higher than the 7800X3D right out of the box.
The 9900X3D is completely useless and should not exist. 6-core + V-Cache should be used for a 9600X3D instead. -
jeremyj_83
The only time a 105W TDP helps performance is in applications that can use all the cores. Gaming doesn't use all the cores and there is no difference in performance on the 9700X between 65W and 105W TDPs.usertests said:Seems likely they will slap a 105 or 120W TDP on the 9800X3D, and make it the savior of the lineup, especially if it can clock higher than the 7800X3D right out of the box. -
DS426
Correct -- the 7800 XT is your bottleneck in most gaming cases, not the 7800X3D. Don't get me wrong, I think the 9800X3D will provide a solid uplift whereas vanilla Zen 5 has been meh over vanilla Zen 4, but one needs a seriously strong GPU to make these CPU's sweat in games, like the RTX 4090.gg83 said:I guess we'll see. I doubt it would makes sense to upgrade from the 7800x3d. Upgrading the 7800xt videocard would be better? -
DS426 I'm curious what single, two, and four-core turbo boost look like if 9800X3D can sustain 5.2 GHz on all cores? Time will tell if that's a golden sample but if that's the norm, this chip is going to be faaaaaast!Reply
Reminds me of the Athlon Thunderbird days and the race to 1 GHz. -
usertests
It may be unrelated, but the point is that it looks like the 9800X3D will clock higher than the 7800X3D (which had a 120W TDP) and 9700X (at least at its 65W defaults). For both all-core and single-core turbo clocks.jeremyj_83 said:The only time a 105W TDP helps performance is in applications that can use all the cores. Gaming doesn't use all the cores and there is no difference in performance on the 9700X between 65W and 105W TDPs.
This tracks with the expectation that the special feature of 9000X3D chips is full overclocking support. There may be no voltage issues preventing it from clocking as high as other chips in the lineup. -
aberkae
True but the 5090 will probably need all the cpu gains you can throw at it to mitigate cpu bottleneck.gg83 said:I guess we'll see. I doubt it would makes sense to upgrade from the 7800x3d. Upgrading the 7800xt videocard would be better? -
Makaveli
Agreed fight the FOMO people.Nikolay Mihaylov said:No, it doesn't make snese. And why should anyone? Which game does the 7800X3D choke on so badly, that would require a new CPU?
Zen 4 owners should upgrade to Zen 5 only if moving up a tier, i.e. non-X3D to X3D or single CCD to dual CCD. Otherwise it's money down the drain.
Those of us on Zen 3 are who the upgrades are for :) -
hotaru251
its never worth upgrading 1 gen.gg83 said:I doubt it would makes sense to upgrade from the 7800x3d
2 gen maybe. but msot ppl should only go every 3 generations as they will feel difference (and thus be worth it to most people
usertests said:The 9900X3D is completely useless and should not exist
not true.
If someone only wanst one machine (gaming & productivity) it makes perfect sense.
and if amd could fix issue of the x900x3d ccd (6cache and 6 normal vs the x800x3d 8cache) then they could make the highest end product the best gaming chip as well. (as that cache difference is why the 900 loses to 800's in gaming)