Elon Musk and OpenAI to fast-track trial to December — suit aims to stop OpenAI's transition to a for-profit company
So, no out-of-court settlement?

OpenAI and Elon Musk have agreed to accelerate their legal dispute regarding OpenAI's transition to a for-profit model, according to Reuters. The trial is set for December. A recent court decision denied Musk's attempt to halt this transition but allowed the case to proceed. Meanwhile, the parties have postponed deciding whether the case will be settled by a judge or a jury.
According to a filing in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California, both parties have chosen to postpone the decision on whether the expedited case will be resolved by a judge or a jury. However, they agreed that the proposed trial is set for December. Earlier this month, the judge rejected Musk's motion to pause OpenAI's structural shift.
Elon Musk initiated legal proceedings to block OpenAI's shift to a for-profit structure last fall accusing the organization of departing from its original mission. OpenAI countered, claiming Musk is trying to hinder its progress to benefit his rival company, xAI. Furthermore, OpenAI argued that Musk had previously supported a for-profit transition for personal financial gain.
Musk cofounded OpenAI in 2015 together with Sam Altman, Greg Brockman, and Ilya Sutskever, with the goal of advancing AI for the public good. He left the organization in 2018, citing concerns that a multibillion-dollar partnership with Microsoft violated OpenAI's nonprofit values by prioritizing profit over public interest. Following OpenAI's 2022 release of ChatGPT and its move toward commercial partnerships, Musk filed a lawsuit in March 2023 to stop the organization's planned restructuring. He later expanded the lawsuit to include Microsoft, accusing it of influencing OpenAI's shift toward profit-driven operations.
OpenAI disputes Musk's claims, arguing that his actions are intended to disrupt its progress for the advantage of xAI, another venture of Musk. In fact, OpenAI presented evidence that in 2017, Jared Birchall, who manages Musk's family office, registered a company intended to be a for-profit version of OpenAI. Documents and text messages show Musk sought a 50-60% equity stake in the entity, claiming it was necessary to help finance an $80 billion Mars colonization project.
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phead128 It's in the US national security imperative for OpenAI to become for-profit ClosedAI. Think of my second yacht in Hawaii!!!Reply
- Sam Altman
Sam Altman is a grifter. I would know - It takes one to know one.
- Elon Musk -
The Historical Fidelity
You know Libel Law is a thing right?phead128 said:It's in the US national security imperative for OpenAI to become for-profit ClosedAI. Think of my second yacht in Hawaii!!!
- Sam Altman
Sam Altman is a grifter. I would know - It takes one to know one.
- Elon Musk -
phead128
Elon Musk already has called him a Scam artist.The Historical Fidelity said:You know Libel Law is a thing right?
1894244902357406013View: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1894244902357406013?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw -
Heiro78
You know there's a thing called freedom of speech right? Rhetoric, puns, jokes, and such are still able to be made. Plus they are an online person, for any of those billionaires to care about a single online person would be a waste of money and just create a cluster of people doing the sameThe Historical Fidelity said:You know Libel Law is a thing right? -
phead128
Open-source LLMs that is competitive and free for public would essentially destroy ClosedAI's business model and xAI's business model.jlake3 said:Is there a way they can somehow both lose? -
The Historical Fidelity
Yes, you have the 1st amendment, which is a negative right, that prevents the government from restricting or retaliating to your speech, however, it offers no protection from private or public entities and/or individuals seeking retaliation to your speech. Thus lawsuits like Libel, Defamation, Mis-representation, etc. etc. can all be levied upon you for your speech by any non-governmental entity/individual if they see fit. And just because you are a small fry that Elon won’t notice should not be taken as an excuse not to follow the spirit of this pivotal societal structure.Heiro78 said:You know there's a thing called freedom of speech right? Rhetoric, puns, jokes, and such are still able to be made. Plus they are an online person, for any of those billionaires to care about a single online person would be a waste of money and just create a cluster of people doing the same -
Heiro78
Pivotal societal structure being lawsuits in general or the specific ones you mention?The Historical Fidelity said:Yes, you have the 1st amendment, which is a negative right, that prevents the government from restricting or retaliating to your speech, however, it offers no protection from private or public entities and/or individuals seeking retaliation to your speech. Thus lawsuits like Libel, Defamation, Mis-representation, etc. etc. can all be levied upon you for your speech by any non-governmental entity/individual if they see fit. And just because you are a small fry that Elon won’t notice should not be taken as an excuse not to follow the spirit of this pivotal societal structure. -
The Historical Fidelity
Proper etiquette…don’t be thickHeiro78 said:Pivotal societal structure being lawsuits in general or the specific ones you mention? -
Heiro78
Was trying to be sure. I didn't get proper etiquette from any part of the paragraph as the meaning of pivotal societal structure. Maybe you could help me out how I could have worked that out.The Historical Fidelity said:Proper etiquette…don’t be thick