Intel Accused of Anti-Competitive Practices in India (Updated)

Updated, 8/28/19, 1pm PT: Intel responded to our queries and provided this response:

Intel respects fair competition and is committed to supporting all of its partners around the world so that they can be successful. Our business practices are lawful and pro-competitive, and we are cooperating fully with the commission.

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  • jeremyj_83
    Intel accused of Anti-Competitive Practices 😲....must be Wednesday.
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  • GetSmart
    Parallel importers are not happy about having being left out of the warranty loop and deal with better(higher) prices from authorized sellers.
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  • Groveling_Wyrm
    So the rough translation is...

    There is a flood of fake products flooding into India. Intel is seeing them come into their service centers, as the fakes they are. So Intel looses money by having to replace these fake parts. Intel then tries to protect itself and stop this loophole by enacting this rule, so that they don't have to service these fake products, and someone gets butthurt.

    Much ado about nothing...this shouldn't go anywhere....
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  • redgarl
    Groveling_Wyrm said:
    So the rough translation is...

    There is a flood of fake products flooding into India. Intel is seeing them come into their service centers, as the fakes they are. So Intel looses money by having to replace these fake parts. Intel then tries to protect itself and stop this loophole by enacting this rule, so that they don't have to service these fake products, and someone gets butthurt.

    Much ado about nothing...this shouldn't go anywhere....

    No, you don't get it. People are forced to buy an Intel CPU at 2.6X times the prices of the MSRP because if they don't, they cannot get customer support and their warranty are invalid when dealing with the foreign dealer. For example, you are in India and order from Newegg Germany because the imports fees are less than the markup in your country, then if the product is defective, unless this happens in 30 days to return your product to Newegg Germany, you are stuck with no warranty in India... forcing people in India to incur additional markup costs just because of Intel decision.

    There is obviously a deal with Intel and Indian suppliers and this is what the Indian authority is fighting over.

    Good news is AMD Ryzen will solve this whole mess for Intel... they will lose massive market share.
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  • bloodroses
    redgarl said:
    No, you don't get it. People are forced to buy an Intel CPU at 2.6X times the prices of the MSRP because if they don't, they cannot get customer support and their warranty are invalid when dealing with the foreign dealer. For example, you are in India and order from Newegg Germany because the imports fees are less than the markup in your country, then if the product is defective, unless this happens in 30 days to return your product to Newegg Germany, you are stuck with no warranty in India... forcing people in India to incur additional markup costs just because of Intel decision.

    There is obviously a deal with Intel and Indian suppliers and this is what the Indian authority is fighting over.

    Good news is AMD Ryzen will solve this whole mess for Intel... they will lose massive market share.

    But as the article states, That is not due to Intel since they set their prices at MSRP. If India goes after anyone, it should be the resellers that are ripping their customers off. They are really grasping at straws trying to say it's Intel's doing that the authorized resellers in India are crooks.

    To put it a better way. You buy a Chevrolet from a dealership. Your oil change appointment comes do. You take your car in to have the oil done and they charge you $125 instead of the normal $50 -60 it'd cost at other oil change places (which may not be covered under warranty). Is it General Motors at fault for ripping you off, or the dealership? You could always do the oil change yourself for like $20-30, but that of course will end the warranty. You could always just skip the oil change all together, but we all know where that will eventually end....


    As with AMD; good job, they finally just about caught up to Intel for performance and it's about time. They are a hot item right now for personal users and will be until Intel finally responds. In the business world though, it's still Intel dominated due to compatibility. If you really think AMD is going to dethrone or run Intel out of business, you obviously have never followed history in regards to the Athlon/FX years.
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  • TJ Hooker
    Groveling_Wyrm said:
    There is a flood of fake products flooding into India. Intel is seeing them come into their service centers, as the fakes they are. So Intel looses money by having to replace these fake parts.
    Uh, why would Intel be honoring their warranty and replacing fake parts?
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  • TJ Hooker
    bloodroses said:
    But as the article states, That is not due to Intel since they set their prices at MSRP. If India goes after anyone, it should be the resellers that are ripping their customers off. They are really grasping at straws trying to say it's Intel's doing that the authorized resellers in India are crooks.
    Yeah, if there is anything unethical going on here my first guess would be price fixing/gouging among the authorized resellers. I guess you could maybe place some blame on Intel depending on what the requirements are for becoming an authorized reseller. E.g. if it is expensive/arduous to become one, or if Intel limits the number, that could reduce competition which could make it easier for those who do get authorized to collude/gouge.
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  • joeblowsmynose
    TJ Hooker said:
    Uh, why would Intel be honoring their warranty and replacing fake parts?

    Good question ... If the problem is created by shady retailers, and by Intel NOT honouring the warranty on fake parts and tells the consumer that the retailer sold him an illegal part, then the shade will get thrown back on the retailer, hurting their illegal business - a self correcting problem that would even save Intel a bit of money by not honouring a warranty on an illegal or fake product.

    So the question is why is Intel choosing to lose money by honouring warranty on fake products, when they could just not do that and help correct the problem of shady retailers? Cui bono?
    There seems to be something not quite logical about all this, and maybe that's why the complaint in the first place. On the surface it seems that there's nothing really wrong here, but I am not so sure ... this is Intel we are talking about after all.
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  • Groveling_Wyrm
    TJ Hooker said:
    Uh, why would Intel be honoring their warranty and replacing fake parts?

    Because Intel can't tell at first, when the get the malfunctioning parts, and replaces it, for a fast turn around, then come to find that they have received the bad/fake parts, when it is too late.
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  • bit_user
    GetSmart said:
    Parallel importers are not happy about having being left out of the warranty loop and deal with better(higher) prices from authorized sellers.
    I'm not sure if this is more a case about price-fixing or warranty coverage.

    Restricting warranty coverage to authorized resellers doesn't seem that unusual. You see that with a lot of products - even in the US. But, if it's used to support an unjustifiable price differential, that seems like the real issue.
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