When are they going to release HD5870's? I am waiting with a wad of cash.

Always nice to have more tweaking headspace... These sound like a worthwhile upgrade to thet board designs. In another couple of years when my SLI system no longer cuts it, I bet these will be industry standard...

because "they are more likely to overheat less"... how about just, "less likely to overheat". Must get paid by the word.

shoot im poor they need to release somthin like this for like the 9800GTX + but class of the future replacement of the 9800

I'm not sure they would be worth the price premium i bet Asus is going to be putting on them, but they will eventually be industry standard like jeraldjunk said. Then everyone can afford them.

"...these capacitors are not only low in cost, but offer an extremely low equivalent series resistance due to the source material."
If that is true, then they should become standard soon enough.

maybe they don't cost very much to make, but maybe the development was costly. you can bet that there will be some sort of premium, at least for a while.

Did I cream my pants? Nope, almost.

Aren't people already reaching 1000GHz on the 4890? What can these babes be overclocked to without budget and sensibility in mind?
What disadvantages do these polymer caps have?
Can I have one?

Benches coming soon please?

Isn't 3.x times overclocking like 300.x% times overcloking?. Maybe Parrish means 30%

He said 3.3 times the standard overclocking margin. So if you were able to acheive a 50 MHz overclock before, it would now be a ~175 MHz OC.

Usually, polymer caps replace electrolytic, no ceramic caps. Ceramic capacitor's capacity range is lower than 10 uf (and usually much lower than that). SMPS in either video cards or MoBo use several caps in the order of 1000 uf, usually electrolytic with low ESR. But electrolytic have a very limited lifetime (even worse considering the low quality components that are used). Solid polymer capacitors have a MTTF of about 600.000 hours @ 65C, so they will last as long as the board.

This whole text looks like commercial from Asus.

yeah, the guys from Asus has a very bad math
850Mhz X 3.3 = 2805 Mhz not 1000Mhz! Also, we already seen "cheap" brands HD4890 to exceed 1000Mhz!
I don't know why they putting such numbers like 3.3 times overclock and 108% and they still not offering something new. This seems like an advertize that will "explain" why their cards are UNreasonably priced.
What I'm trying to say is we already seen GTX285 at 720Mhz and HD4890 at 1000+Mhz.
Q: What the hell are the point of this capacitors?
A: To give asus a reason to rob us.

This article says ML caps are cheaper to use, then why aren't they saying it's going to be used for all video cards toreduce costs across the board? Why is it that only the GTX 285 is mentioned?

This reads like an advertisement. It might be nice for you to put these claims to the test, rather than dumbly repeating what Asus marketing department sent you.

if the plastic melts, you'll really see some hot burnin' graphics cards!

Sounds good, I guess. Now when the 5870 comes out if ASUS puts out a republic of gamers card with these capacitors, then I'll be interested. My two trusty 3850s will just have to hold out till then .

If the price premium is only about $20-50 then I would consider this.

yeah, I realyzed that later.
but anyway, OCing 4890 to 1000Mhz is not impresive, nor OCing GTX285 to 720Mhz.
My point was how this "new" caps are better than the "old" ones, because we already seen better OC without these "new" caps.

My guess is they're talking about releasing parts from the factory with these overclocks, home users might be able to push them even further.

"these capacitors are not only low in cost"

I hope that means the cards would be cheaper than the older ones

108% increase should be 8% increase. Although 108% increase would be pretty sweet...

When Atom was announced, they said it will be extremely low cost, but still you have to shell 300$ if you want a mainboard with the "cheap" cpu.
OLED was also supposed to be cheap... to produce or something.
So, low cost means just that, cheap to make; the price we pay for it will always be set by offer/demand ratio.

pitty the most common cause of death in video cards is memory or the gpu contacts breaking causing artifacting and eventually death

wonder how much $$$ ASUS paid to place there add here

"the default core is increased 108-percent before overclocking"
---is it just me or is this statement misleading? why not just say increased by 8%? oh wait, thats because 108% looks more impressive albeit misleading

marketing, marketing. i'd be happy if they stated that an actual price reduction will happen because of this

There are a few errors in this report, though I'm sure the marketing dept. is to blame rather than the author.

The advantage of Super ML caps is it's higher capacitance density while retaining very low ESR. That's pretty much it. Now dispelling the rest.

Ceramic caps also remain stable under regular and AC voltage, they do not significantly age within the lifespan of the product (or 5X it), and we don't see them cracking from high thermal shock in normal situations, in fact ceramic caps are put right on the CPU and GPU carrier, because it and chipsets on mainboards, and other areas where heat resistance is desired and liquid electrolytic wouldn't survive as well as behing too high in esr and impedance at high frequency.

There is no significant generation of piezoelectric voltage in the computer circuits they're used on, they are not timing caps needing exact values and it's a pulsed switching circuit in the first place. If the claims were true then Asus themselves wouldn't be using such *problematic* ceramic capacitors on almost everything they build, if not everything.

It's mostly gobbledegook, the high capacitance and low ESR in a flat form factor allows it to be placed closer to the powered part when that part has a heatsink, compared to the height of a solid or electrolytic capacitor, reducing impedance between capacitor and powered part. This is a desirable thing, this may improve overclocking, but they went off the deep end of the BS pool when they knocked ceramic capacitors trying to make it seem like this is revolutionary.

Anybody can make a short polymer capacitor. Give Asus engineers credit for seeing a good use for them, but their deceptive marketing is a stain on their honor.