Panram's DDR4 Memory Might Be Cheaper
Panram also introduces DDR4 memory modules.
We've already seen a lot of X99 motherboards and the three Haswell-E processors, but we haven't actually seen all that much DDR4 memory. Today there is a new contender: Panram. This company is launching its Ninja-V DDR4 memory modules, and while no pricing was specified, we do hope that it will be a little cheaper than competing kits.
The Ninja-V memory modules will only come in four versions – two frequencies and two capacities. The frequency options are 2133 MHz and 2400 MHz, with both available in 4 GB and 8 GB variants. Timings for the modules are CL15. Being DDR4, the operating voltage is also lower than DDR3, so they run at just 1.2 V.
Kit configurations will be available with either one or two modules of each capacity, making the kit capacities range from just 4 GB through 16 GB. For 32 GB of memory you'll have to buy two separate kits. Panram also indicated that kits will be available in white and black. Perhaps it's not so bad that kits only have up to two DIMMs; that way you'll be able to mix black and white heatsinks for fancy color effects.
Pricing is going to be open, which could mean anything. The conservative frequencies on these modules might point to a friendlier price tag than we've seen in other units. No word was given on availability, though we do expect the X99 motherboards, Haswell-E CPUs, and DDR4 memory to launch tomorrow.
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Here is an example : http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f32400c10d8gzh
So the only real advantage would be something like 2-3 Watt saved ? at 0.09 $/ Kilowatt-hour, this is not a big saving. (btw i am not sure for watt saved)
So the only real advantage would be something like 2-3 Watt saved ?
The fastest DDR3 in the world does you no good if you want to build a system with an Haswell-E which only works with DDR4... if you want Haswell-E, you will need DDR4 no matter how much it may not seem to make sense at least for the time being.
I think it'll take even longer for wide market adoption. RAM is already extremely fast and it took about 2x longer for JEDEC to decide on the DDR4 standards than it did with DDR3. I think that DDR4 would be somewhat unnecessary if every company adopted the green's manufacturing process but it was a proprietary samsung method and very few DIMMs with the same chips as the green exist. If I remember right a pair of really high end trident ones might have had the same ones.
I would say the method would be too expensive to reproduce but samsung sold the RAM dirt cheap so probably not, but you'd still need their expertise and fabs. Right now the RAM market is extremely bloated and stale so it's refreshing to see something new.
Crucial 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 2400 for $239.99
Turns out they're an asian OEM. Thanks google
2012
Milestone -Kingston becomes the single largest shareholder in Panram
there home page also stated that Kingston was there biggest share holder and may still be so is it a Kingston kit is a rebranded panram??
The DRAM market is a competitive place with brand name prominence being a huge factor rather performance. Of course quality control is another piece of the puzzle, but is a more hidden aspect of what equates to gaining market dominance. (much like PSUs in my eyes)
Dear god yes, it's absurd the RAM prices at the moment. I'm lucky I bought myself 32GB of DDR3 back a little over a year ago before the prices skyrocketed. I got all 32GB for $120 at the time.
And Alex, thanks for the great demonstration of smarts - HUES, YES!! Finally!!
Of course, I thought the Zebra Mix possibilities were so that, when someone's driving these Panram-loaded PCs thru the Kalahari, many of these PCs could cluster together and make a run for it, confusing jackals, lions and cheetahs with the flashing HUES.
DDR3 prices are pretty much where they need to be unless you want more memory manufacturers to go bankrupt from unsustainable low prices: every time DRAM prices have hit historic lows has been accompanied by one or more memory chip manufacturers going bankrupt before prices shot back up. There used to be over a dozen DRAM manufacturers with significant market shares 20 years ago but now, most DRAM chips are manufactured by only four players.
If you think RAM is expensive now, wait until the next major manufacturer goes bankrupt or bails out of the DRAM business.
$150 for 16GB is still a heck of a lot better deal than $300 for 256MB 15 years ago or $60 for 4MB 20 years ago.
Why are they sticking to 4-5 years old prices? Because:
1- they cannot manufacture entry-level DRAM chips and HDDs any cheaper than they already do if they want to maintain some degree of profitability so they can afford staying in business
2- the technology itself has reached a point where further improvements require far greater engineering effort and costs so capacities, performance and costs are no longer progressing anywhere near as fast as they used to
3- most of the market demand is met by entry-level components
4- those same entry-level components are good enough for most people for 5+ years so replacement cycles are becoming longer across the board
CPU prices have been largely stagnant with only incremental performance improvements for the past four years too. Same goes with nearly all other commodity/entry-level components: they are all pretty much as inexpensive as they can be without driving the manufacturers' out of business.
Even on the SoC front that had exponential performance growth between the first smartphones and tablets until 2012 have already slowed down considerably. With 16nm chips coming out next year, there should be a lurch forward but after that, things will likely stagnate for another 3-4 years.
The days of new products with compelling upgrade reasons nearly every (other) year are mostly over.