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Second Opinion: Angelini Geeks Out On WoW

Killer Xeno Pro: Do You Really Need A Gaming Network Card?
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While I love working with hardware for hardware's sake, there comes a point when the rubber meets the road and you have to use technology for something other than benchmarking to truly appreciate it. Don has done a great job here of digging into the nuts and bolts of what makes the Xeno Pro tick. But when I found out he'd be writing this piece, I was immediately curious about how the card would affect performance in a real-world app that, at one point, I was actually fairly hardcore into: World of Warcraft. I personally blame/thank James Yu, formerly of GameSpot, for introducing me to this one while it was still in beta.

Representing Tier 2!Representing Tier 2!

Healing In WoW

The 12 million players involved in WoW probably know what I’m talking about here, but for the Tom’s Hardware readers who’ve never touched World of Warcraft before, the game is divided into the content experienced as you level up and the content you experience once you’ve hit the level cap.

Some people level multiple characters and enjoy the questing, five/ten-person grouping, PvPing, etc. For me, WoW was all about end-game raiding. Now, as you’re leveling/grouping/questing, the game is fairly relaxed and everything gets done on your schedule. But in end-game, the encounters get more difficult, the atmosphere gets tenser, and most important, the loot gets better. Should you get to this point, the game becomes more competitive. Screw-ups are less tolerated by peers, and your latency does matter.

Device Manager, pre-drivers. The device is recognized as a PowerPC processorDevice Manager, pre-drivers. The device is recognized as a PowerPC processorDevice Manager with Killer's devices recognizedDevice Manager with Killer's devices recognized

I play a paladin healer on a reasonably-quick computer attached to a fast cable connection. Even still, in end-game content, fractions of a second make the difference between your tank living and getting smashed by some ridiculous combination of abilities. In order to perform as well as possible, healers have to be aware of their latency and start casts with that number in mind (even before the previous cast has registered as having landed). Damage casters have to do the same to maximize DPS.

In the screenshot below, you can see my latency plugged in to an integrated Gigabit controller. Yes, I know you have to click three times to get to the full-size version. Feel free to make fun of my horrible UI if it helps ease the pain of that third click. The second shot shows my cast bar with a little red sliver at the end. If you start a cast right when the bar hits the sliver, you’ll start your cast immediately when Blizzard’s server registers the result of your last cast. If you instead wait that fraction of a second for your game client to show the cast completed, you’ll have little blips of downtime in between heals—the recipe for an eventual untimely tank death.

Blizzard's status information gives you latency and frame rateBlizzard's status information gives you latency and frame rateCasting a heal--note the cast bar in the upper left-hand corner.Casting a heal--note the cast bar in the upper left-hand corner.

If the Xeno Pro were able to cut down in-game latency and make that sliver as small as possible, there’d be greater positive correlation between when I see in-game and what Blizzard’s server registers—in other words, less compensation on my end for the disconnect between my computer and Blizzard’s. This would be a great thing for competitive raiders and easily make the card worth its premium.

Now, when I’m playing the game, I’m not doing it with multiple torrents in the background and I’m not running a virus scan. It’s WoW on my desktop system with Ventrillo running in the background. When my wife and I were playing together, that’d be the extent of the network traffic. If your play style is different, your results will vary. And if you do like playing the game with all sorts of other downloads going on at the same time, hope that we don't raid together, because nothing annoys 24 other people than a wipe caused by the 25th lagging out.

With the Xeno Pro, very little differenceWith the Xeno Pro, very little differenceSimilar latency means using a similar heal strategySimilar latency means using a similar heal strategy

So, I loaded up Vent, loaded up the game, and headed out to Icecrown to do some healing tests. While latencies naturally varied during the course of testing, I generally saw pings between 20ms and 90ms, averaging just over 60ms. I didn’t see any improvement with the Xeno Pro installed, and the healing strategy I would use in a raid environment remained unchanged.

With near-certainty, putting an extra $130 into your graphics subsystem is going to make more of an impact on gaming if your connectivity setup is similar to mine.

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    Neggers , July 1, 2009 6:58 AM
    Some important testing is not done here which I would like to see.

    I live in Australia and I am a WoW player on the US servers, so a typical ping for me is 250-300 and 300-400 when raiding.

    Now when you guys are testing with a 60 ping a difference of 10% for you is going to be 6ms and not going to translate into anything noticeable.

    However for someone like me, if this card can improve my connection with the WoW servers by 10%, that could be upto 40 or 50 ms, which could be a huge difference.

    So I would like to see more testing done in Higher ping situations, prehaps if you guys tested connection to MMO server in korea or europe, so you were testing in a 300+ ping enviroment, and see if this effects the results.
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    tirzono , July 1, 2009 6:40 AM
    Wow, I have bought this card and it even cured my AIDS!

    Thanks Killer Xeno Pro!
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    tryceo , July 1, 2009 6:26 AM
    I won one of these from wowhead.com, but i havent fitted it inside the case yet...

    IMO its a waste of money... I just keep my internet idle when im playing online.. plus you can get a better upgrade for your GPUs if you dont spend money on this...
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    eddieroolz , July 1, 2009 6:31 AM
    Wasn't there an article similar to this a while back, and everyone bashed it saying that it was pointless? (It was, but just saying)

    Doesn't seem like its still worth the premium yet.
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    ColMirage , July 1, 2009 6:33 AM
    Hah, I've been wondering about how bad of a scam this card was today.
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    haplo602 , July 1, 2009 6:36 AM
    try a quality server NIC like an intel f.e. and you'll see better results for less money, the killer nic and derivates are just hyped nonsense
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    IronRyan21 , July 1, 2009 6:39 AM
    eddieroolzWasn't there an article similar to this a while back, and everyone bashed it saying that it was pointless? (It was, but just saying)Doesn't seem like its still worth the premium yet.

    eddieroolzWasn't there an article similar to this a while back, and everyone bashed it saying that it was pointless? (It was, but just saying)Doesn't seem like its still worth the premium yet.


    When I saw the headline for the articles, I was thinking the same thing....Yes, they did an article before and yes this product is pointless. +1 eddieroolz
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    tirzono , July 1, 2009 6:40 AM
    Wow, I have bought this card and it even cured my AIDS!

    Thanks Killer Xeno Pro!
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    tryceo , July 1, 2009 6:46 AM
    yep... after about 1 minute of testing(removed 1 9800 GTX) The lagg is still there.

    If anyone wants mine tho... willing to sell it for $90. it just got opened..
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    Neggers , July 1, 2009 6:58 AM
    Some important testing is not done here which I would like to see.

    I live in Australia and I am a WoW player on the US servers, so a typical ping for me is 250-300 and 300-400 when raiding.

    Now when you guys are testing with a 60 ping a difference of 10% for you is going to be 6ms and not going to translate into anything noticeable.

    However for someone like me, if this card can improve my connection with the WoW servers by 10%, that could be upto 40 or 50 ms, which could be a huge difference.

    So I would like to see more testing done in Higher ping situations, prehaps if you guys tested connection to MMO server in korea or europe, so you were testing in a 300+ ping enviroment, and see if this effects the results.
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    Ciuy , July 1, 2009 7:10 AM
    And i was thinking spending 50$ on a PCI network card , now i wont ...
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    cangelini , July 1, 2009 7:28 AM
    NeggersSome important testing is not done here which I would like to see.I live in Australia and I am a WoW player on the US servers, so a typical ping for me is 250-300 and 300-400 when raiding.Now when you guys are testing with a 60 ping a difference of 10% for you is going to be 6ms and not going to translate into anything noticeable.However for someone like me, if this card can improve my connection with the WoW servers by 10%, that could be upto 40 or 50 ms, which could be a huge difference.So I would like to see more testing done in Higher ping situations, prehaps if you guys tested connection to MMO server in korea or europe, so you were testing in a 300+ ping enviroment, and see if this effects the results.


    I never understood why the AUS guys would play on mid-west servers. I knew some really nice raiders from Australia, but they'd lag everyone and either do lower DPS or be unable to tank as a result. Not their fault, but they had way more success playing on Oceanic servers when they eventually swapped over.
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    Anonymous , July 1, 2009 7:39 AM
    this one is similair to killer nic

    http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/adapters/gigabit-ct/gigabit-ct-overview.htm
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    Neggers , July 1, 2009 7:57 AM
    cangeliniI never understood why the AUS guys would play on mid-west servers. I knew some really nice raiders from Australia, but they'd lag everyone and either do lower DPS or be unable to tank as a result. Not their fault, but they had way more success playing on Oceanic servers when they eventually swapped over.


    First off, the Oceanic Servers are still located on the West Coast of the US, the only difference is they changed the time zone on them. So I actually have the same ping on US servers as I do on the so called Oceanic servers.

    Secondly I have been a top raider since Pre-BC, including clearing All of 40man Naxx, and all BC raids Pre-Nerf.

    And currently even with my ping, I have never lagged out and caused wipe or failed to perform for my guild (infact I am one of our top DPS, doing over 6k DPS as an enhancement shammy).

    So maybe you met some bad Aus players, but trust me that not all of us are, and actually some of us that are actually good players, out perform most of the scrubs with
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    Artman256 , July 1, 2009 8:03 AM
    Turning off DHT on your torrent client will make a noticeable difference to the speed of other applications using the internet.
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    eternalfury , July 1, 2009 9:24 AM
    How about testing the performance during large/long/multiple file downloads? FTP, HTTP, Torrents. Some of us download a lot. Hell, just trying to keep my MMO's updated is gigs a month.
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    alabasterboy , July 1, 2009 9:39 AM
    I have the older Killer K1, I first installed it on a Dell Precision 670 and noticed an improvement in my frame rate and lag. 10fps 50-60 ms. I put it in my new Dell T7500 and it still helped with the lagg as much but nothing really with the frame rate maybe 1 or 2 fps. I also live in Alaska and have 3Mb DSL that I share with my family. I would suggest trying this with an older system. I don't think you will notice much of a difference with a top end system. I think @ $130 its a bit over priced but for around $50-$60 its worth the money, which is what I picked mine up for the older K1 that is. Also not sure where you are located but you are already getting better latency than I am with out it.
    Its a very situational upgrade.
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    alabasterboy , July 1, 2009 9:45 AM
    To the Aussie reader I would try picking up an older PCI version, I don't care what they say no upgrade is going to help your latency other than this if you already have a good system to begin with.
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    cyberkuberiah , July 1, 2009 10:06 AM
    NeggersSome important testing is not done here which I would like to see.I live in Australia and I am a WoW player on the US servers, so a typical ping for me is 250-300 and 300-400 when raiding.Now when you guys are testing with a 60 ping a difference of 10% for you is going to be 6ms and not going to translate into anything noticeable.However for someone like me, if this card can improve my connection with the WoW servers by 10%, that could be upto 40 or 50 ms, which could be a huge difference.So I would like to see more testing done in Higher ping situations, prehaps if you guys tested connection to MMO server in korea or europe, so you were testing in a 300+ ping enviroment, and see if this effects the results.


    your 300 ping is not the result of only your nic . data goes through a series of routers of the isp network and back , each of which have their delays . by buying this card you can only reduce the latency added by your nic , not of all those routers .

    the claim of a flat percentage drop in latency irrespective of the location and isp infrastructure is hence worthy of rejection .

    even 64 kbps leased circuits are costly , the reason is a q.o.s guarantee by the isp .

    however , when considering lan parties , the presented card can provide a noticeable difference , as 6 ms out of 60 ms makes up 10 percent .

    the radeon 4850 still is a better proposition for rigs that arent graphics maxed out . if you have , example , classified , 9800 gt for physx and 285 crossfire , heavily oc'ed i7 , low latency ram etc then this card could be a "topping" on your cake . niche market product .
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    ravenware , July 1, 2009 10:50 AM
    A key element that is missing is a standard expansion nic. Something with its own ram resources (most have a little bit), this way we can if the little differences are attributed to the gaming nics power or the fact that it has its own resources.
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    kschoche , July 1, 2009 11:42 AM
    lol, again with this trash?
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    doomtomb , July 1, 2009 11:50 AM
    I wouldn't be pissed at this product if they didn't get a name like EVGA to back it. This NPU stuff is crap, I have a motherboard with dual Gigabit LAN and you are trying to tell me that I need to get a seperate $130 card just to play on the internet? I think the premium on PC gaming is high enough thank you very much.
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