Harden Up: Can We Break Your Password With Our GPUs?

Archive Encryption: WinZip And WinRAR

The data in an encrypted archive, like one you'd open with WinZip or WinRAR, is generally less safe than it would be on a fully-encrypted drive. That's because we are talking about dissimilar concepts.

Data compression involves wrapping a file or a set of files in a container and removing redundant data bits to conserve storage space. You can actually see the difference with a simple file comparison in a hex editor. Notice that there are fewer rows due to compression.

Of course, the concept of a file container is what also allows you to open up an encrypted WinZip file. The container is not encrypted; the contents are. This means you don't need a password to see the contents of an archive. File names are not protected.

WinRAR relies on the same concept. But now you have the option of encrypting file names. It's possible to do this by securing access to the entire container. This prevents you from even opening the file unless you have a password.

File names are part of what’s known as metadata. This is akin to data's data, and it's one characteristic that separates WinRAR and WinZip. The latter allows you to see the contents of an encrypted archive while former is able to encrypt metadata.

That, in and of itself, doesn't necessarily make WinRAR more secure. But persistent password hackers try to exploit metadata, as it’s usually unencrypted. By finding weaknesses, it's possible to engineer an exploit that takes advantage of flaws in the way encryption is used.

Now, you shouldn't be too concerned if have a strong password and you use a good encryption scheme (AES-128 or AES-256). At the same time, if you don't want people to know what you are encrypting in WinZip, it's better to use a nondescript file name instead of something like "2011 1040 Tax Form." Of course, strong security cuts both ways. If you obscure file names, you won't know what's in the encrypted file until it's full decrypted. Making access less convenient for prying eyes generally means it becomes less convenient for you, too.

So what happens when you heed our call, tighten the bolts on all of your digital locks, and then forget how to get them open again?

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  • ryandsouza
    "Think of this as generating every single combination of numbers that can be used to solve that same Sodoku puzzle, starting from an all zeros all the way through all nines. "

    Sudoku puzzles have numbers from 1 through 9!
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  • jeff77789
    "While it would take a longer time to find a password made up of nine or 10 passwords, it's definitely doable between a few gaming buddies. "


    9 or 10 characters?
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  • jj463rd
    How about adding some extended ASCII codes to a password.
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  • ryandsouza
    "Think of this as generating every single combination of numbers that can be used to solve that same Sodoku puzzle, starting from an all zeros all the way through all nines. "

    Sudoku puzzles have numbers from 1 through 9!
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  • rpmrush
    This reminds me of Bitcoin GPU crunching. 6990s are favored right now. I wonder how many were sold specifically to Bitcoin miners? I tried it with my dual 6850s but the heat was rediculous. I didn't like the stress on my hardware so I gave up mining. I'm sure it's the same with password software. Maxing out your GPUs. Great for Winter, not Summer!
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  • mediv42
    I've always wondered about this: why don't they just code a delay into the decryption program, so you can't check a billion passwords a second?
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  • joshyboy82
    I like the scale, but in your small example (a,b,c) you were right and wrong at the same time. Based on your configuration 6 possibilities are correct, but because you tell someone that they can use A or B or C in the password doesn't stop them from choosing aaa, therefor the combination is 9, not 6. Otherwise, interesting article.
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  • acku
    276101 said:
    "Think of this as generating every single combination of numbers that can be used to solve that same Sodoku puzzle, starting from an all zeros all the way through all nines. " Sudoku puzzles have numbers from 1 through 9!


    Fixed! Sorry. I usually play Sudoku variants. :)


    424793 said:
    I like the scale, but in your small example (a,b,c) you were right and wrong at the same time. Based on your configuration 6 possibilities are correct, but because you tell someone that they can use A or B or C in the password doesn't stop them from choosing aaa, therefor the combination is 9, not 6. Otherwise, interesting article.


    I could understand that, but I left out that since I was trying to show a simple example of how permutations differ from combinations. As you pointed out, repetitions are allowed in passwords. I actually mention that in the sentence that follows in the next paragraph.
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  • webdev511
    Password Haystacks Yes Steve Gibson has already covered something like this. Passphrases with upper lower number and speical are the way to go. Yes, please avoid shortcuts.
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  • acku
    179702 said:
    I've always wondered about this: why don't they just code a delay into the decryption program, so you can't check a billion passwords a second?


    It wouldn't be easy from a design standpoint, cause now you're talking about fiddling with the design of the program.

    The easiest way to slow down the verification portion of the password authentication process is increasing the number of transformation invocations for key generation. The problem is that this slows down the performance of your machine, even if you have the correct password.

    jj463rdHow about adding some extended ASCII codes to a password.


    That assumes WinZip and WinRAR supports them. To be honest, I haven't looked into that. Though, I'm inclined to believe that neither program supports them.
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  • shin0bi272
    the tables in this review are horrible... they go from lengths of time to number of passwords and theres no discernible notation when they do.
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  • Mark Heath
    Cracking a password? There's an app for that.

    Saw something on this elsewhere recently (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/cheap-gpus-are-rendering-strong-passwords-useless/13125)

    I've changed the password for important (tangible value) passwords such as that for my steam account to a password that now uses a few special characters, and some mixed up numbers, lower and upper case letters, totalling 18 characters. (lol)

    Now I have a few different tiers of passwords, a now replaced 8 string of letters and numbers for unimportant things a couple of years ago, a now replaced string of 15 characters for semi-important things a couple years ago (have real world information or usefulness for a potential bad guy), their 8 and 15 respectively replacements and my new 18 character string for things that have definite tangible real world value to potential nasties.

    And being only 15 I think I'm on the right track :)

    The only thing that *really* worries me are the choice of security questions sometimes. If you're not allowed to pick your own, the answer would be easy to find on my Facebook page or similar (if I had one ;)) Mother's maiden name? There's a Facebook page for that.
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  • acku
    Mark HeathCracking a password? There's an app for that.Saw something on this elsewhere recently (http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/cheap-gpus-are-rendering-strong-passwords-useless/13125)I've changed the password for important (tangible value) passwords such as that for my steam account to a password that now uses a few special characters, and some mixed up numbers, lower and upper case letters, totalling 18 characters. (lol)Now I have a few different tiers of passwords, a now replaced 8 string of letters and numbers for unimportant things a couple of years ago, a now replaced string of 15 characters for semi-important things a couple years ago (have real world information or usefulness for a potential bad guy), their 8 and 15 respectively replacements and my new 18 character string for things that have definite tangible real world value to potential nasties.And being only 15 I think I'm on the right track The only thing that *really* worries me are the choice of security questions sometimes. If you're not allowed to pick your own, the answer would be easy to find on my Facebook page or similar (if I had one ) Mother's maiden name? There's a Facebook page for that.


    Actually, AccentZIP and AccentRAR are real world derivatives of the ighashgpu program that Zdnet wrote about. Ivan Golubev actually wrote the code for all three programs and we had the pleasure of working with him to write this article. The difference is that with ighashgpu, you're mainly looking at hash cracking.
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  • aaron88_7
    You could buy multiple GPU's for a hefty price, or you could just use Amazon's cloud computing to do it for you....

    http://www.securityweek.com/commercial-software-harnesses-amazon-cloud-crack-passwords-faster
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  • aaron88_7
    Oops, link didn't show up, here it is:

    Linky Linky
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  • acku
    413287 said:
    Oops, link didn't show up, here it is: Linky Linky


    Interesting. According to the article, it seems that the password recovery speed is limited by the internet connection.

    I seem to recall seeing someone mention that a pair of 590s was faster than 30000 passwords per second with Elcomsoft's GPGPU document cracker.

    Heck, assuming only 2002 SHA-1 transformations, a single GTX 460 would be faster.
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  • compton
    How much of a jem is this article? This is way better than trying to save 3 cents a year on your power bill. I for one would like to see the process expanded into a benchmark if possible. For one thing, it could be an excellent for CPUs where it seems like it's more optimized -- GPUs are basically limited to nVidia's CUDA, but I still think the brain trust at Toms could find a way to make an informative benchmark out password cracking.
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  • kkiddu
    What if you have TRANSLTR?
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  • Hupiscratch
    A next good article would be a search for the best decryption software. Let the decryption roundup begins!
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  • Anonymous
    Interesting article. I personally use a fairly simple way to use one different password for each website / service following an easy to remember pattern. The method is described here:

    http://passwordadvisor.com/TipsUsers.aspx

    Would also be interesting to see if Sandy Bridge AES instructions helps on brute force.
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  • srgess
    Im surprise they haven't tested Elcom solution, they are faster for recovery password with any competition with some process. You can put make a network resource. So lets say you have a lots of money and put 10-20 4 SLI GTX 590 computer or Tesla computer available resource to get a super computer , password cracking will pass from days to second. Imagine Top supercomputer in the world and its just a beginning. Soon we gonna have to have password with 20 + alpha numeric and special character. Or data crash after 10 attempt.
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