$3,699 audiophile media server is powered by a standard NUC with a mystery CPU — you still have to buy your own storage, too

A shot from Roon Labs' Nucleus Titan promo.
A shot from Roon Labs' Nucleus Titan promo, showing off the "Stone" version of the Titan. (Image credit: Roon Labs (via YouTube))

Audiophiles are known to pay eye-watering pricing for what is, at times, just standard hardware. However, Roon Labs has taken it to a new level — the company isn't even sharing some of the critical specs of its new $3,699 PC for audiophiles. The company has been teasing the upcoming release of the new higher-end version of its existing Nucleus line of NUC-powered audiophile PCs dubbed the Nucleus Titan. Pictures of three customized Nucleus Titan units were posted to its Twitter page (embedded below), which we spotted thanks to FanlessTech

The $3,699 price point would be difficult to justify for even a truly high-end PC but seems particularly heavy-handed for what seems to be a perfectly ordinary Intel NUC PC on the inside. But that might even be somewhat acceptable if Roon Labs weren't willfully obfuscating any actual CPU and RAM specs on product pages for other Nucleus units and all press material for the Nucleus Titan so far.

A previous tease during CES 2024 pretty much has the exact same PR-speak text about the Nucleus Titan that the YouTube video description does. Claims include "36% CPU performance improvement," "37% more power efficient," and "80% increase in RAM speed and memory bandwidth over Nucleus Plus," but no actual listing of the CPU used is given. In fact, the product listings for Nucleus and Nucleus Plus, which are already out, also don't provide the specific CPU or RAM specs.

A shot of the three Nucleus Titan models, originally posted to Roon Labs' Twitter page.

A shot of the three Nucleus Titan models, originally posted to Roon Labs' Twitter. (Image credit: Roon Labs (via FanlessTech))

The three models of the Nucleus Titan come with a Metal, Stone, or even Wood shell, depending on the aesthetic you're gunning for. They all look exceedingly premium and make the most of the NUC form factor, visually speaking.

Roon Labs also posted a 360-degree video look at the Stone version of the unit on YouTube, claiming it to be "Coming Soon." However, a product listing for ordering the unit is yet to be seen on its official website, which currently only lists the original Nucleus and Nucleus Plus units for purchase.

It's understood in high-end audio hardware circles that audiophiles are perfectly willing to overspend on sound hardware, but usually, that means actual sound devices that can at least quantify their performance in the form of spec sheets with frequency range and other key metrics.

No matter who you are, though, we think it's fair to say that you deserve to know exactly what you are buying when you are asked to spend $3,699 on the unit before taxes or add an actual storage drive.

While audiophile circles seem to generally praise Roon Labs' Media Server solution for features like bit-perfect streaming, it's very important in this context to know that you can install the Media Server on just about any PC you want. However, there is a monthly subscription fee. You do not need to spend thousands of dollars for a PC to listen to music good, we promise.

An opinion piece from SoundNews released shortly after the CES-timed tease has similar concerns to our own. According to them, the Nucleus and Nucleus Plus were using Core i5 and Core i7 CPUs, respectively— so judging by that and the relative performance statements, we imagine the Titan may at least pack a Core i9.

But at this price point— and really, the other Titan units, too— needing to speculate about what CPU you are actually going to get if you buy the unit is unacceptable. There is no good-faith reason for Roon Labs to obfuscate this information from the end consumer, no matter how cool its NUC enclosure or media server software is.

  • Math Geek
    something, something "fool and his money", darkside.......
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  • abufrejoval
    By the time people can afford these things, they are half deaf anyway. But they'll never admit they can't tell a high-end system from a commodity car radio, because that would by like saying they can impregnate 10 virgins in a row any more.

    They pay for an illusion and they get their money's worth.

    The rest of us just wants to have that kind of money to spend it on something more sensible like a quad RTX 5090 rig...

    ...which makes just as much sense, especially if modern computer games and juvenile opponents overwhelm your ability to react and always have you killed within a second of starting a game.
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  • Neilbob
    Does it have a Realtek AC'97 chip on the motherboard, or did they go for the full Sound Blaster card for its own built-in audio?
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  • agentnathan009
    White paper for the device. It doesn't get into too much detail, but mentions modern Intel CPUs and at least 4GB of RAM plus a 64GB SSD for OS use.

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pUj-yFsAHPgTuV1TbcESA4va1_mxv1M_VQPJV___nuQ/edit?pli=1#heading=h.aufgjiao1xj5
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  • punkncat
    I cannot recall the branding but within the last few (ish) years there was another mention of a 'high end audiophile' system that was completely fanless and the entire case was the heat sink at some similarly eye-watering price.

    Looks at one of my $100 builds and $25 refurb headsets.....yup. Fine.
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  • evdjj3j
    $3,699 is a bargin in audiophile world.
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  • ivan_vy
    agentnathan009 said:
    White paper for the device. It doesn't get into too much detail, but mentions modern Intel CPUs and at least 4GB of RAM plus a 64GB SSD for OS use.

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pUj-yFsAHPgTuV1TbcESA4va1_mxv1M_VQPJV___nuQ/edit?pli=1#heading=h.aufgjiao1xj5
    not even list the dB, Signal-to-noise ratio (SNR), the impedance, frequency, is the DAC 24 or 32 bits?
    I'm not even an audiophile but always checks these values.
    Sounds (pun intended) selling this overpriced thing and buying yourself is a good way to clean dirty money.
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  • evdjj3j
    Neilbob said:
    Does it have a Realtek AC'97 chip on the motherboard, or did they go for the full Sound Blaster card for its own built-in audio?
    My guess would be it has Intel HD Audio the successor to Intel's AC 97 standard.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_High_Definition_Audio
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  • kyzarvs
    If you poured this much scorn on nvidia or apple pricing, maybe it would help millions of people.

    I mean, it's no worse than apple vision price, or the annihilation of realistically priced GPU's
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  • TheyCallMeContra
    kyzarvs said:
    If you poured this much scorn on nvidia or apple pricing, maybe it would help millions of people.

    I mean, it's no worse than apple vision price, or the annihilation of realistically priced GPU's

    writer here- I'm regularly critical of poor-value pricing, actually! I only run a 3060 Ti in my own PC.

    but the issue here isn't just a high price tag. it's full obfuscation of the actual specifications consumers are paying for for no good reason. at least NV, Intel, and the rest give us actual spec sheets before expecting us to pay them.
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